Only impossible for tanks with no Mg above them. So yes, I did agree. But, I’m not ruling out those tanks with Mg’s above them to punish CAS player’s mistakes when doing a bomb run. Not until we reach the AGM/ASM/GBU/Jets era when Mg’s on tanks becomes obsolete against them and need to rely on SAM, proxy fuse rounds, other jets etc…
MGs on tanks are reliable as long as player flying an air unit doesn’t know about the angle limit on it.
But then, why say that there is no point in discussing things when @FlyingDoctor is the one who replied to the talk about Tanks and started discussing things about SPAA while refusing to provide something (aka link to server replay) showcasing what he describes as uncommon?
After all the discussion we had, You should know that I’m not the one saying that SPAA can’t do anything. I only state that using the air is the better option for players as it gives You more chances (thus the 'spaa is not effective enough).
The thing that makes me say there is genuine RussianBias is their decision making, especially with things like the MANPADS devblog.
Valid opinion.
10.0 Russia is a ridiculous lineup.
While it’s true that there is premium bias it’s mainly because of the insane amount of vehicles you get at single BR. With the exception of the 2S38 the vehicles aren’t really that special.
SPAA is there, and it’s the players choice not to use it, and leave the team wide open to being destroyed by air, because they choose not to use it, use it in a manner which is conducive, and ignorant to the points made about how it doesn’t actually need to kill to be effective.
If I have to J out to counter an aircraft I’m dead too.
The mere fact of it being on the field to ward off what is there, is a big portion of the role of SPAA.
Ignoring this, is just ignoring pure based facts.
Playing SPAA is boring. If planes force you to play a playstyle you don’t enjoy they’re a negative aspect of GRB.
Also absolutely insane rewards for playing SPAA.
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Then you plan, and spawn the SPAA first… You’ve been told this elsewhere, and ignore it…
The commonality in ALL of this is ACTUAL ignorance… The further that people ignore the feature being there and the reason for it being there, the more this weaponised ignorance exists leading to more and more of these whinge and moan threads about how ‘bad’ CAS is…
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He is a good player bro, have you seen his IS-4M and T32E1 KD? it’s fucking close to 6.0, you think he needs anybody’s advice on how to do better in the game?
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Yet they have trouble with being bombed, with a vehicle in the ground tree that caters to preventing this, and if they know it will happen, then why the actual f not?
Why actually NOT spawn such a vehicle with the express purpose of it being cheap, and able to help your team out, to perform that role, as if others see you doing it, they will too, and they will keep doing it.
Right now, people choose too much to throw the towel in, and abandon everybody because it’s all about the individuals stats.
The initial issue I have with ULQ is that they don’t accept any other metric than those stats, so they ignore other protections and advantages they offer, and this being championed as a ‘stat’ thing, is absolutely beside the actual point.
It doesn’t NEED to kill to BE EFFECTIVE… The ONLY measure that everyone is fixated on is the kills you can get with them, rather than the deaths you prevent by being there.
But you guys ignore the fact that playing SPAA aiming for birds is goddamn boring lol that’s why you keep seeing these threads constantly popping up, even I find the gameplay of SPAA is nothing but boring compare to light tanks, medium tanks, and heavy tank classes, there is no way to go around them and they only start becoming effective at 10.0 and only one or two countries have SPAA with that capability, then they are also boring. Remember that repeatedly telling people to do something they don’t like it’s similar to asking them to suck it up, with TO mode you wouldn’t have to bother wasting so much time trying to convince players into doing something they hate, and there is no need to in the first place bro.
To each his own, if you are happy with the current state of the game, great! you do you, but don’t try to stop others from wanting what they wanted, these guys obviously understand the game better than many of you here, and you just further annoyed them by repeatedly telling them what they already knew, like water is wet. Some will be treating it as you try to insult their intelligence bro
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Fair.
I just don’t see the point of TO when I die roughly 20% from CAS while the 80% is from tanks. To add, even Gaijin sees no point of another ground mode which I also agree with them and stating that their whole main feature about WT is combined arms. It’s how they want it and how they designed it to be. Before I played WT in 2015, I looked at WoT and other tank games, the combined feature attracted me and i loved it. I gone multiple games without getting bombed by CAS as well. I play this game for hours almost everyday due to the fact that I’m stuck at home recovering from Chemotherapy. I do get my small exercise and walk out a bit when I can. Sadly we only remember the bad moments in WT thus we complain about it but forget we have good moments too where we killed 10+ tanks without dying.
The point of TO is to repair the combined mode actually and make it better.
With a place for people who just want to use tanks, combined mode won’t recive additional nerfs/bufs and everyone playing it will be using all vechicle classes (ground/air).
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Ehhh, i still believe they need an SP adjustment. I hate the idea of spawning on planes with 1 cap zone.
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And I belive that with place for people who just want to use tanks, aircrafts even with bombs/rockets should be allowed to spawn from the beginning
already exist, called SB
You can say that in SB You are able to do that, but because of how gamemode is made (not B.R. but set-ups and limited SP) the results are much different (not to mention that in RB flying a plane is much easier compared to difference in driving a tank)
But you must understand that this is purely an unfounded opinion you hold and therefore not enough to sway Gaijin into adding multiple new modes (TO might have to be RB and AB going by logic of “fairness” espoused by a set of TO requesters)?
An acceptance of one new mode will bring out all the same arguments I have seen in TO threads; “Well TO now have own mode therefore we MUST have our new mode” (from TO textbook of progress) - Do you think Gaijin would be wary opening that can of worms?
Anyway, I see no harm in adjustment to make the early spawn a little harder for planes in GFRB if it does not negatively effect; You cannot complain about cap and fly but then be against anything to reduce cap and fly, it is not a system people are stuck behind, or can you?
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We are in RB section that is why I stick to RB mode.
If we would like to talk about general TO then that is not a topic about it.
And what about people who like current state of things? Why change things that people like instead of just giving a place for people to play just tanks? No more nerfs and changes.
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Then you plan, and spawn the SPAA first
If there was TO I would play SPAA first spawn in that mode because I know people that play mixed will spawn planes. Right now if you’re unlucky and the enemy team doesn’t you’re sitting around for 25min without ever seeing a single plane. Also look at the screenshots I posted and tell me playing SPAA is worth the time if you want to grind a techtree.
The commonality in ALL of this is ACTUAL ignorance… The further that people ignore the feature being there and the reason for it being there
What if I actually want to play tanks? Just spawn SPAA forever until the match is over?
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This thread is about RB.
ummm yea. i know. Just stating that planes being able to spawn at the start already in SB. He believes what SB has to spawn planes and helis with all loadouts at the start of a match should also be in RB…rather keep that in SB and not bring it to RB. Each mode has their own unique design.
He believes what SB has to spawn planes and helis with all loadouts at the start of a match should also be in RB
Only in Mixed RB not Ground RB