Can we stop throwing bones to air abusers in ground realistic?

Yes and no. You can’t blame players for trying to grind effectively and earn SL while doing so.

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That doesn’t solve the issue of most trees missing viable SPAA or just SPAA in general throughout their trees

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I can speak to the ADATS and Bosvark.

Both of them, in my honest opinion, suffer from being too large and with having huge spaces where they are simply unable to fire. For the ADATS, that is anything above 65°- meaning any space climber is out of your range, and you are simply a free kill. For the Bosvark, it’s straight ahead of you- which is also sucky, because 95% of the time airplanes are not approaching you in a straight line from where your guns are facing.

They both also have limited ammo, which can make things a little difficult. Overall they don’t suck- they just have massive drawbacks that becomes a problem every couple of games.

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The mental acrobatics are obscene.

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Their choice not to spawn it, and their choice to die by the air in that same choice.

It’s nothing to do with actual lions, it’s about actually surviving and performing the role.

The severe damage mechanic I’m sure is to change the ‘I don’t make anything from this role’ or the ‘I don’t get any kills from this role’…

Nothing I said is wrong. Russian bias is a myth believed by new and bad players looking for a reason why they’re not doing better than they do now.

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Same with CAS, and much of what players label as ‘unfair’ ‘broken’ ‘abuse’ and every other excuse they can make.

Can’t see the difference between something caused by vechicle characteristics and something made up?

Doesn’t surprise me.

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Russian and western vehicles both have ways to counter each other. For tanks it’s impossible to counter aircraft.

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Absolute nonsense, as shown many times in this thread already.

If it were ‘impossible’ then there wouldn’t be ANY screenshots as have been shown.

SPAA is there, and it’s the players choice not to use it, and leave the team wide open to being destroyed by air, because they choose not to use it, use it in a manner which is conducive, and ignorant to the points made about how it doesn’t actually need to kill to be effective.

The mere fact of it being on the field to ward off what is there, is a big portion of the role of SPAA.

Ignoring this, is just ignoring pure based facts.

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I’m not new, but I am a bad player. I never thought much about it when I was first playing - in fact I thought there was only “major nation” bias, in the sense that German tanks and US planes were often undertiered because “newer” players were using them more and performing badly.
The thing that makes me say there is genuine RussianBias is their decision making, especially with things like the MANPADS devblog.

For the record, I have UK, US and USSR all at top tier air and ground, so I did bother trying it before coming to this conclusion. 10.0 Russia is a ridiculous lineup.

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Provide it then, would love to see how tank deals with an air unit that didn’t just flight in straight line ;)

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As per usual, you’re ignoring the point made to rib over someone, merely repeating your precious stats, not taking on board ANY of the purpose of a forum.

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Sorry but You are the one saying that things were shown and then fail to provide it.

If You want to take part in the discussion You can’t just make statments out of blue. The comment You replied to was about tanks. And tell me where I have talked about stats right now?

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You’re so over the place that it’s getting ridiculous… You accept the screenshots as signs of skill, and yet when they’re referred to, they disappear…

How hypocritical can you be, or are you genuinely that forgetful? Nah, you’re just that sort of person…

I can actually, it’s the wonder of having the opinion to be held.

Tanks, have SPAA as counters. Stop living with the lights off, you need to actually see.

@ULQ_LOVER If you can’t accept that I can flinch a player out and make them crash, then you are absolutely beyond discussion because as I’ve stated that kill isn’t credited, so that skill, isn’t acknowledged by your precious stats.

And that, is where your stick lays… Sort it out.

So please link it, if they are here it shouldn’t be that hard. I would love to see that tank dealing with a plane that is not flying in a straight line.

Opinion without anything to back it up is as valid as the flat-earth theory

To what You have replied:

If You want to correct Yourself that he is right and that You need an SPAA in order to be able to do something, then You can do it.

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So You can provide a link to server replay showcasing it, shouldn’t be that hard to do as You can do it.

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Refer to above, I’m beyond done with you and your minions who think you’re cool and are statchecking everyone about the forums like 8 year olds.

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I have already done it.

If there is something backing up Your words then it should be easy for You to link it.