Can we stop throwing bones to air abusers in ground realistic?

I only dismiss words that are not backed up. Anyone can say anything, especially when he tries to hide something. Otherwise, we should belive flat earthers

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I gave you evidence,. but you dismissed it as soon as it was posted…

Much the same as the evidence of the person exploitin the esc menu… Just wrote that off instantly, yet still explained that it was so common that you were surprised I hadn’t seen it…

Please provide link to the evidence that was brought up (aka screanshoot/video/link to server replay).

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You seen it, you ignored it… It was because you were saying that you couldn’t watch multiple targets at a time, and I was doing that, you were all ‘Nope, not making kills’…

Your criteria for being ‘good’ is flawed and fixated, and that’s the error of your assumption.

Much the same as the old ‘If there’s multiple planes, then what you gonna do’ insinuating that you’re on your own…

Just disingenuous, and all I see is a liar if the fact is that you can’t actually engage in good faith yet claim you have a degree… Just doesn’t sit right at all, someone of such ‘calibre’ would have some skill in discussions, but it doesnt’ seem you have anything moret han reliance on stats, and interpretations of what you think is valid or not.

So You can’t provide a link to the evidence that was brought up?

As long as You don’t, there is no reason to keep up with this discussion.

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He’s actually very skilled. I seen his gameplay, he always aware of surroundings. To add, he’s a way better CAS player than me. But that’s due to me not doing CAS as often. I play more ground units than air in GRB.

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It’s not ‘abuse’ to be bombing you. That’s the over all point in this, and I’m not a bad guy for getting the upper hand in whatever feature the game provides.

He may be, but thing is he’s not skilled in having actual discussion, and the only thing they could do was dismiss the points just by pulling stats.

It flatters me but I make a lot of mistakes that should not be done in first place.

You should see what players I played with/against can do :D

You should see what players I have engaged with have said about how difficult the game is to find information ad encouragement on the regular rather than being crapped on by players igoring that some people genuinely need a hand and direction rather than being told things aren’t worth being used because someone doesn’t have any vision for thier use other than their perceived ‘skill factor’.

That’s the difference, you’re ego stroking on the forums, I help people on the daily to debug and fix thier shit… I don’t give a rats about my stats, and you constantly making out that my comments are worthless because my stats don’t match what you think is good is ignorant af…

As I said, I don’t play thegame for the stats, I play the game because it’s fun, and I help people get their games sorted out on the regular.

The fact you statchecked me, not the OP of the infamous thread shows you were fixated on only dismissing what I said, not actually helping the player. That’s the dumbest indicator of your entire mindset in the first place.

I’m amazed that no-one cottoned on to that from the posts that were made in there.

If I were told that I should use something that is not effective I would feel the same as players You have described.

Same if I was told that there is russian bias, premium bias and other things.

That is why I’m telling people the truth as it is.

And now, please provide link to the ‘evidence’ that You have ‘brought up’. There is no point in having a discussion without that being provided.

If they haven’t even tried though, you are doing them more severe dis-service by advising against using it.

As I’ve also mentioned, you won’t accept the point that the vehicle doesn’t need to have kills to have been effective at staying off an attack, so your demand for evidence so you can claim proof is just straight continuance of the initial issue.

That you want me to show you things, so you can deny them, while you can just pull up my stats, and deny that anything isn’t recorded, and that you think that I am a ‘detriment’ to my team (That was the word you used) for actually going out and doing something, and not getting any SP back from it.

But you ignore the idea of making sure that the larger threat, whaever it is, is taken care of by any means necessary to help the team.

After all, you pulled up my M18 stats, which I use on the regular, because I scout and I use that to lessen the cost of my plane. A common daily task is intelligence, and assists. You blasted me about using the shells of the highest pen as if I was some noob, when here I am, going for assists.

You ripped me a new one, ignoring the entire time that the point that was being raied was nothing at all to do with the stats.

How stupid is it, that you can literally dismiss anything and everything with a blanket wave of the old stat card, and proclaim you’re just analysing the stats.

Just gonna copy it as long as You won’t provide what You say that You have showed:

Otherwise we are going to have a discussion when everyone can say what they want and all people should belive them.

Honestly, I hate this idea whoever decided to allow it. This allowed my F-86 Sabre to cost 336 SP with CAS load. I mean, it’s not a lot of CAS, but it shouldn’t cost this little for it. Makes an easy revenge bomb run lol Im not a jerk to do it though.

The idea behind plane cost reduction is brilliant.

Sadly (as I have said many times), current gameplay tries to make both (only tanks/combined) players to have ‘fun’ making the experience for everyone to be ruined.

Not to mention that on higher B.Rs. a lot of helis (Like AH-1F with 8x TOW II) can be spawned with less than 600 SP from the start.

I’m actually not participating in this thread because what I said was said, and you, and anyone else who tries to get into the ‘discussion’ from that thread makes it more ‘acceptable’ for ULQ to have said things, and makes it appear I’m disingenuous for not responding to his ‘simple requests’ which are a furtherance to the issue that I have with them.

Fact is the feature is there, and it works fine… It takes skill to get those scouts, and to accept that as skill as ULQ has seemingly done it shows further that my original interaction with them was geuinely him statchecking, for the sake of dismissing, because if my point wasn’t valid then, then how is yours now?

Honestly, it was awesome to have you put your screenshots up as it stopped him for a short while, but the way they are with the reckless statchecking and throwout ‘You’re worthless’ is septic.

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Understandable. I’ll continue sharing gameplay of stopping CAS. I enjoy doing so lol

To a CAS player, its brilliant and I see the purpose behind it. It allows players to stop CAS early, however, it did the opposite. It gave more power to CAS players to work less on ground to be able to use fighters loaded with big payloads and CAS was already strong before it. That’s why i don’t like the idea of fighters first, it will back fire. As for the helis, I never liked the idea of having helis. Back then I didn’t and still don’t but it is what it is. Now If Gaijin can give me my proper counter for Japan, would be great. CCV that has PF like 2S38/Otomatic and Middle range Multi-Purpose missile firing from HMV which has 10km range without relying on SAM’s IR/photocontrast which is limited to background noise and low heat signature. Hope soon, for now I’ll continue to use with what I got to fight my enemies.

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I downloaded an air combat game. I quit playing it because it got dull pretty quick. That game then added tanks, and I came back to it. When the airplanes were made too powerful compared to ground vehicles, I went over to playing SIM mode. Then they added planes to that mode too, and restricted the vehicles that could be played in it. Ever since then, I’ve been campaigning to get them to add a mode for just tanks.

It is my opinion they are not going to do this, because all of us that prefer tank combat would leave the mixed combat mode, and the flyboys would complain like crazy that they no longer had tankers to abuse.

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Alright so I have some ideas so AA can be better against CAS so here is my idea

The biggest problem with AA is that many people don’t play because they don’t have the skills to be successful with them, so planes fly free :(

so what about in test drives for AAs you can choose an option where a bunch of planes fly in the sky, flying all random directions doing all sorts of acrobatic monuveres so then people can train their AA targeting skills!

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There are some user missions that has SPAA training. However it’s not much. Would love it if Gaijin added some training grounds for all SPAAs unlocked with all kinds of planes flying from different directions, speed, distance. Either straight, diving, head on, flying away, few flying in full short circles etc…would be great if someone updated an existing user mission as well. Would download them from War thunder LIVE website.

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