That is why I try to make everyone happy as I don’t want to change what they like.
For people wanting to play tanks
Discussing it and presenting the idea?
You haven’t presented anything to Gaijin. Why is that? Discussing the idea is great, but nothing happens without suggestion posts, which you have none. So sit here and “discuss” all you want, but don’t try to discourage every other person who actually wants to make change past “discussion”.
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I do not see a pure tanker any different than a WT player in that respect. Just because they have more limited responses to aerial flanks personally does not make their “target” status any different.
Trying to keep everyone happy will never work in any scenario (in general context too, rather than just WT). It is a flawed way to help resolve anything.
Not everyone who just plays or wants to play tanks only see it as a problem. So a bit of a stretch there.
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Try to make make everyone happy by giving people that want to improve things a hard time is more like it.
Welcome to the 2018 old forum topic.
Imagine higher tier. Like i said, certain spaa only have one belt. The falcon with 600 rounds is able to defend itself due to its small size and apds round in its belt, but stuff like the chieftain marksman quickly run out through its meager 400 bullet belt. Radar isnt a sure fire way to kill a plane. A small wiggle here and there can be enough. So you always lose more ammo than you want.
I understand the reason why gaijin isnt turning the spawn area into a resupply zone. So it wouldnt encourage spawn camping from the defending team. But like you say, for spaa, who’s role is to defend from the air, mostly by being stationary, this doesnt really work.
You don’t need to kill, just maim with an SPAA. Sure you will not get more kills but that is a personal goal (points, score, RP, SL, are acrued even without a kill), and maiming can help a fellow player tackle enemies easier. I found a SUB I II can put a Jadgpanther out if action in seconds!
If solutions are needed then solution per BR/Tier zone would be more sensible.
Gaijin will soon make ammo refills zones for GRB mainly for SPAA players, but can be used for anyone that runs out of ammo and theres no zones capped. It’s part of their roadmap for 2024. Glad they will do it cuz I ran out of ammo on Type 93, Type 81 and some SPAAs and didnt want to get to cap zones where the fighting is at. Would have to dip right away but chances of survival is low.
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If you gave any vehicle unlimited ammo it would alter its BR, a SPAA on a spawn point is just a player with unlimited ammo who hasn’t even pushed on a zone or even moved an inch. At least a zone is resupply halfway up the map.
JuicyKuuuuki is quite inspirational in terms of pushing SPAA and he reminds us all that is it possible to be quite cheeky with SPAA. You can spawn camp with it yourself and hit incoming CAS at their end of the map as well. That is an old trick. Moving SPAA up the map and not living in your own spawn area but the enemy’s half of the map. Also push up as your team push up don’t just sit on spawn while CAS kill your team on the zones.
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I don’t discourage You from wanting to do something, I’m pointing out that it just won’t solve the córę of the problem.
More limited response = easier to kill
I don’t get why You avoid saying that they are easy targets.
Sorry that showing You that things won’t really improve is „hard time”.
No, as you say while in said ground vehicle there are limits to what you can do, whether you have a varied lineup or not.
So I still disagree with that premise and think explained my reasoning.
Because, as above, I see no logic to the distinction.
Difference is a Ground Only focused player (no aircraft) can only truly support an aerial flank in SPAA as they don’t have aircraft by their own decision.
I do not see an only tanker as an easier or harder target as a tanker than flies is all, hence not giving you the reply you expected.
Line-up has nothing to do with person playing just tanks
Tanker aka person using only tanks
If you do not understand just ask as I was clear.
I know, so not sure your point with the reply.
I’ve been pretty clear.
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As I have said person who is using only tanks will always be am easier target (aka easy frag) as he isn’t going to spawn anything to fight You back but rather leave the game or spawn another tank.
When we are talking about fighting the ground, tanks are always easier to destroy from the air as they mostly can’t defend against it so we can call most of the ground units „easy frag” for air.
If there was no more „pure tankers” in combined mode, people would choose vechicles which mostly can defend against air as there would be more people going for it instead for tank vs tank fight.
I do not agree. Also there is no indication of a player “type” when you shoot at or are shot by said enemy.
I do not see why a player only using tanks is an easier target.
This is just guesswork really and picking bones.
So again, I answered and think we are good now regarding your queries
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i know how strong spaa can be.
i play the falcon, just to let off some steam. a reminder, that this tank only has 1 apds bullet in a 4 bullet shell. and thats already enough to make it this powerful. around this br, where you mostly fight german light armor, there is no need for high pen heat or apfsds. just a 30mm autocannon will do the trick.
however. imagine tanks like the chieftain marksman, which only has the 400 bullet belt. it can only equip 40 bullets of apds to protect itself. its not like the falcon. the marksman is a real spaa. it needs to concentrate on the air. for such tanks, having an alternative reload point, like the cap, would make it more useful. it atleast wouldnt have to worry about ammo preservation and can certainly put more effort in scaring off enemy cas.
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When I get BP challenge to get kills using SPAA I go for ground rather than air. I think many do but it does sadly push SPAA up in BR. I think the French DCA is an example of this now France has no anti air cover at 4BR.
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And if you want that certain Sealclubber feeling, I recommend the M42 and M19A1. You also have two SPAAs that can dish it out properly ^^
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