Can we stop throwing bones to air abusers in ground realistic?

i switched from AB to RB in 2017 and left in 2019 comin back in oct 2023

Yeah like I mentioned, I found moving from mid/high AB to mid/high RB too much a steep curve, requiring learning RB properly by playing my way up again. Then having a big break is bound to reset your own personal progress in handling the game.

You will be versing players who get through many more games daily. The game does not separate casuals from those doing their all, and it shows.

no its the same metal grinder small maps plus irl stuff this is whole job to do and what i pay to allevaite that to play on the same small maps plus CAS is just the icing on it

custom battle maps id stay but you get no RP for it

The playstyle is completely different and much is not transferable, so would not be the nicest experience. And yes, small maps is not great and the population seems to want the quick fix more than used to.

Yes, players able to put in more time will get more out of it. Contrary to my numbers in game I have always worked and do other things ;)

Idea there is get as much done to the vehicles you want, then RP and SL no longer matter as you ignore the rest. Worst for those either wanting certain modern vehicles or who like the ride the “end” of the grind.

With that, and if there is a pop for it, Custom Battles would be perfect (no costs/no rewards other than the gameplay).

yeah i was after a certain tank so i can go on Godz server in customs or whomever has those big maps like battle of britian

im saying overall it would be nice to have something like custom maps without the pure unrealistic chaos so we can also progress match making is not fun its obviously and rightfully designed this way so people pay its f2p and theres gonna be a catch its why yall call it “grinding” but its gaijin business and again free

How about this.

Lets make airplanes in realistic an actual reward?

Remove the scouting mod. Make planes available to players that have at the very least a kill to their name.

You want to spawn a heli? Unguided rockets is no problem. Neet to actually get dangerously close. But a full on long range missile heli? A bare minimum of 5 kills.

Or a capture point, rather than a kill. Whatever. Atleast something that is better than how it is right now. Change is neccesary.

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That should read "Imposing my opinions on everyone necessary. "

Not needed when we have a clear way to appease both the parties on each side of the fence and those sat on the fence as well.

Lmao, where to start…

  • Understanding that motivation bias affects turnout for things like polls or reviews (think Yelp) * The “falsification” comes from sampling bias (hearing mainly/only from the negative)
  • I am understanding the evidence…I didn’t dismiss the poll you cite (though as a YouTube poll, it remains problematic for the above reasons and eligibility)

I already dealt with all these things…

My comprehension is fine–that’s why I do fine in RB GFs, understand the discussions on the forum and the plight of TO. You’re not telling any truth making fake claims or petty attacks on others, you’re just embarrassing yourself.

TO is let down by exactly this sort of whiny, petulant behavior…TO advocates have shot themselves (and TO) in the back by attacking and antagonizing all sorts of other WT players just because they play WT.

You guys trash talk everyone else then literally ask why nobody wants to back you or your ideas…SMH

The whole premise of most TO threads has been RB TO, not AB or SB. Therefore RB becomes the main point of discussion and hence my comment and others.

That you have very limited (though not none) experience with RB is a problem for you participating in this.

I was honest but not derisive of your record…yet here you are lashing out at the facts coming out.

Again, petty…

Lmao

  • Given that you seldom play RB GFs, you have no standing to comment on others’ results (you don’t see me making big claims about AB or being derisive of it)–as it stands, on a straight comparison I do better…so now what?

  • I play casually and use the tanks you mention for task lineups (also very casually and more focused on time efficiency); I have other things to do besides WT in this life, so I don’t always stay in matches where the tasks are out of the way (ergo, no more time to lead the team)

  • The “struggle” talk is humorous, but wrong…I yield fine results despite grinding and playing all–including lousy vehicles and poor MM lineups

My results are respectable (despite casual play and honest setup (no bushes nor graphics cheese)) and maybe that is why you’re so fixated on them like this. I guess you could be envious of them…you certainly haven’t matched or exceeded them yet.

Not so…and you wouldn’t like player GFs in the Air modes.

I already explain the flaws and problems with that above…as well as Gaijin’s history on the matter (2019).

They’re the ones you have to convince.

High tier is humorously unbalanced in general, though others say even that there is incorrect.

You underestimate SPAAs’ potency and overestimate most aircrafts’ range/weaponry.

It’s more than what acquiring a tank requires and all of that can be prevented by the enemy too…so my point stands correct.

So…what do you have to say about the tankers who go 0-2 or 0-3 to tankers who ie scoreless to other tankers (we don’t even need to involve aircraft, plenty die flat out to tanks).

What about those guys, eh?

lmao…you attack and deride thousands of players in a mode you barely play for simply playing the game and call me toxic while you post a goofy GIF immediately above.

You have to be trolling…please don’t let this actually be you, please tell me you’re just trying to get a rise out of us all.

Regardless of the answer to the above, you’ve exemplified why TO advocates (not TO) are so unpopular…they’re just always lashing out like children against other WT players and it’s boring.

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Can we boil your long winded waffle into just having a TO GRB?

Thorough =/= long winded

As it stands, I am happy to welcome and play TO as long as it is viable.

TO advocates make all of it tricky though…we’d probably have had TO in 2020 if Gaijin’s 2019 proposal hadn’t been shunned.

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Please quote any.

And it has nothing to do with you deliberately choosing a mode i played last time after the ground beta.
You know that, and you still choose that.

???

Just as i do.

Just as i do, yet i have a good stat, not like you.

Which has nothing to do with what i say.

Whic is still more than the “nu-uh” you guys use.

I play both. I know it.
uuuuuuugh yOu DoN’t HaVe ExPeRiEnCe auuugh.
@ULQ_LOVER can you tell us something about the SPAA effectiveness in ground RB?

Can you make it clear what do you ask?

It describes how you look like when you wrote that.

And you explained why CASvocates are so unpopular.

Speaking of toxicity…

Yeah, flag this as “spam”. You gotta love CASvocates…

Your previous post was full of such things…I’d have an easier time picking out the parts that weren’t petty attacks on others (it wasn’t even just toward me!).

Um, no.

A) I didn’t choose to talk about RB, the threads have been centered around the premise of an RB TO…so that’s the thread, not I.

B) I have no idea when last you played RB…the data sheets don’t say.

If you haven’t played RB recently, that only strengths the point I made (you’re in a poor position to speak on RB).

I haven’t checked into your AB record nor care about my own if that’s what you mean. (I haven’t played AB with any frequency since 2014 or so…I’d estimate perhaps 100-200 AB AFs games in the decade since, though even that is probably a stretch (almost 0 AB GFs games ever)).

As for RB GFs…well, I must chuckle if you’re trying to deride it. My record is well above average. :)

It’s directly related given that you’ve suggested that’s what’s needed for (your vision of) CA in the AFs modes.

Lmao

How is encouraging TO advocates to put together a rally to demonstrate/practically test (albeit informally) the idea of TO naysaying?

That’s probably the single most productive nudge TO’s ever gotten, haha

In RB? Not according to the documents…according to your dossier, you have:

  • A total of ~40 RB games played in aircraft
  • A total of 140 RB games played in tanks
  • According to your comments, neither of these tallies is even from recent use

We’re talking about RB matters here, so please try to reconcile this all or admit that you’ve been going on about RB matters with only AB insight to work off of…the modes are very different.

Whatever experience you might have in AB with aircraft/SPAA is all but irrelevant to RB because the meta and mechanics differ widely between AB/RB. Even such fundamental, plain mechanics as matchmaking vary completely.

If you don’t understand the vast differences between AB and RB and why it matters, well…that’d explain a lot actually.

Oh boy…this’ll be a hoot. SMH

Nevermind ULQ or his takes…why don’t you speak on your own accord? why can’t you talk about the matter?

You just said you have played both aircraft and SPAAs, so what need is there to involve ULQ?

You say aircraft SP costs are too low a hurdle for obtaining the aircraft and that the players who do obtain aircraft are ‘bad’…so nevermind aircraft for now, let’s ask you about tankers:

What do you have to say about the guys who have their tanks (at least 2 GFs spawns are guaranteed by SP costs) and then do absolutely nothing with them?

Are the 0-2, 0-3 tankers ‘bad’ because they get nowhere with vehicles they’re given or what? What’s the deal with that?

Not at all–I’ve been sensible, balanced and mature here. I’ve served as the ‘adult in the room’ here and in other TO threads that have gone off the rails before too. You haven’t seen me attacking other WT players for playing the CA game of WT.

If TO advocates were a little more collected and not so eager to attack other WT players, we might have seen TO realized when Gaijin put forward their proposal in late 2019…it was on the table.

Lmao

Again, there is no such thing: there are WT players (which can be broken down into a variety of real categories by mode (‘pilot’ in AFs modes, ‘tanker’ or ‘tanker who flies’ in GFs, ‘sailor’ or ‘sailor who flies’ in NFs) and that is the overarching truth: all players are ‘WT players’ in the grand scheme of things.

As there are thousands (millions?) of WT players and a large percentage of those in the GFs mode use both GFs and AFs units, there are scores of ‘tankers who fly’…so it’s strange to deride and deny the existence of such a large bloc–you see tons of them in games every day.

No toxicity in what I said…just the hard truth.

If you don’t want me to say your comments are boring and unbecoming, don’t have them be such.

Have respect for others and you’ll do better here on the forums and even in gameplay too. TO advocates don’t help their cause when they deride the fellow WT players they’re courting for support…so why not try a different way after years of nothing?

When you start respecting and stop underestimating your enemies in battle, you do better yourself…you learn to take matters seriously and you play better because of it.

When you stop thinking of the foe who just defeated you as a ‘bad player’ and instead think of how to do better, you’ll do better and are more likely to avoid the next defeat than wasting your time with sour grapes.

See a different approach and you’ll be better for it.

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Right, so like the CAS folk?

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this whole statement is the reason why WT is getting worse and worse.

People complain about sniping spots making players uncounterable.
Gaijin Solution: Remove sniping spots on all maps (everybody disliked that by the way)
The people’s solution: LEARN TO AIM AND HIT THE TARGET WITH A PROX SHELL or CAS

People complain about matches taking too long because they are used to watching subway surfers, a youtube video, and playing COD at the same time

Gaijin’s Solution: Condense the maps, make the only large maps at top top tier, remove flank positions and hiding spots, add spawn protection to slow down the obvious meta change of spawn rushing and camping
People’s solution:: Use their brains. Think smart instead of just W-keying forward, capping points, and one death leaving. Use actual tank tactics, take your time to aim and guarantee the 1 shot kill.

Children like you are the reason gaijin is nerfing things that made the game great over and over again. you whine about CAS. Then go play Ground RB? CAS players have played air to grind for their f4u Corsair, just like you have played GRB to grind for your charioteer. Be quiet or go play a different game. War thunder started in the air, be happy you have tanks to play with.

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I have no problem with that. I love Pilot Spam.
Get many kills with my German Flaks (Which are excellent, especially the later Missile Flaks) and deplete the enemy spawnpoint pool.

Often matches are turned because of enemy plane spam after an initial good push, because planes can’t cap points and waste spawn points.

Honestly, I am more annoyed if it is my team that Plane-Spams. Especially in cases where we have like 5 living players left and 4 of them uselessly circle around in their planes.

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Tanks might have been added later, but as of now, ground is the most played mode. Why? Because airplane users have an easier time here. Instead of fighting 15 heat seeking missiles, they only have to worry about maybe 2 or 3 enemies at most. And not even all from the ground. Even radar spaa isnt good enough to be consistant with killing everything that flies.

A low hovering heli with long range missiles. A jet that knows how to wiggle and turn for a bit instead of flying completely straight. Its easy to evade ground based mg’s firing at you. Which is the majority of spaa. Only br 10 and up gets to enjoy missiles to fire at them. But by then, they already fully enjoy the ability to flare. And they always have more flares than ground based spaa have in missiles. Especially the early variants. Strela only carries 8 rockets. And thats literally all it can work with.

I dont know this kid you talk about. I am too sad by the fact gaijin implements all the wrong map changes, removing sniper spots, and adding mechanics like overpressure that are heavily abused by artillery tanks. But my problem are kids like you, who are blinded so much by their ignorance, they fail to spot a real problem, even if it were to hold a gun to their head.

CAS is a real problem. CAS has been developed to such an extend, they need to be rebalanced. They are enjoying free flight in the air. Can easily evade incoming fire. While their bombs grow bigger, and their planes grow faster. Thank god the british grind is terrible, otherwise we would have seen a whole lot more lancesters out there that threw bombs bigger than the pe-8. But atleast such planes are spawned in by players that actually put on a show on the ground.

My real problem, if you actually read it, are people who put in no effort at all, and still get to fly CAS. The glory of dying for your team, should not be a valid reason to reward them with a free ticket to reveange their death.

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lmao

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