British Weapon Systems - Technical data and discussion

Honestly the best reply I’ve received. I’m starting to see just how much spaghetti is behind the curtain.

Welp, looks like I just gained a new obsession for bug reporting (for the next three weeks).

There was probably no reason to fix it. But now Britain has a good performing auto-cannon, APDS firing light tank. It will probably get fixed soon just to nerf the Fox

But what do you mean fixed? The performance of the L14A2 is governed by manually entered figures and corresponds closely with the best known penetration data (40mm @ 40° @ 1500m, various sources).

The performance of the 3UBR8 should be 25mm @ 30° @ 1,500m according to Rosoboronexport, the state exporter of those rounds, but in-game it will penetrate 70mm!

Whatever “fix” or formula has been applied, it gives the wrong output.

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Like L27A1, They’ll use a universal standard way of setting pen that is “fair” for all nations which will end up with it underperforming compared to currently.

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The actual reason is pretty simple, while the HS831 APDS and L14A2 APDS are fairly different, both the HS831 and Rarden share HE and SAP rounds, so its eaiser to assume they’re the same and use data from both to extrapolate performance than try and figure out the details of both separately.

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Given they should be man in the loop guided, there is 0 reason they should share this limitation. Even if they are going to F-up their implementation there is no reason to further limit the missile.

Well sadly we’re talking about britain here, try explaining to gaijin how adding unique features to other nations would be a good thing.

My biggest reason for being chapped about them botching the TV Martel is because it should have been the path for them to backport man in the loop to all the weapons in game that should have it. It’s not a unique, one off development for a single weapon in game, it should have been a correction to multiple at once.

Do any Russian/Soviet weapons use Man in the loop?
if no, theres you answer
if yes, someday it will come

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Makes the most sense in this topic hence why im posting it here

Love the F22 shooting down the J20 with a missile at like 200m away.

Hopefully that’s not what their doctrine says about using missile.

The good point is its great to simulate dogfigth without the danger in flying into your opponent.
But it seems to have multiple caveat.
How heavy is this thing? If the computer is on your head and you have to pull 9G , gl to the pilot.
Is it truly usefull in BVR (where modern combat would probably take place)?
Like at 50/60km aways, you’re not going to see the ennemy anyways (“Beyond visual range” : it’s in the name). Making the ennemy visible would be useless, for BVR training atleast you need real oponent which you can lock up with your radar/ irst or do it all on a simulation.
Maybe the thing integrate some kind of BVR simulation on the onboad computer with fake radar solution but then the whole visualitation part is useless.

Yeah the F-22 v J-20 is hilarious but honestly i’m Unsure about alot of it, outside of the fact its already in use with the USAF,
I imagine theres alot more capabilities than is shown in the video, with the WVR stuff being shown because its the easiest way to show its capabilities to the average joe so to say.

It isn’t any heavier or obtrusive than a JHMCS that they would wear normally

It doesn’t matter. it assists with BFM training, and that isn’t going away any time soon.

Since you are in the cockpit it can just be the display portion which is quite light. Lighter than current HMS systems… a cable can run to the interconnect for the helmet to the aircraft systems. Like being hard wired with a VR system.

AR / VR systems have actually made huge leaps in progress in making helmet mounted sight and display systems cheaper, lighter, more rugged, and more reliable for military applications. So much so that we have been testing them on tanks as well.

Anyone know gaijins stance on adding apds for our 57mm (and maybe the 75mm but I’m not sure we ever issued or had an apds round for it) and 17pdr on the firefly? Seems a bit silly giving Americans their super shot which was their answer to needing more pen. Would make the Cromwell mk1 a menace and give the Churchill mk3 the little buff.

Hmmmm an M48 in the British tree perhaps? :o

merhaps

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Would require BR increases for those vehicles that get them.

I would take that for the Cromwell mk1, would give a very nice ~4.7 medium to bring. As for the Churchill it would let give it anything too powerful so I don’t think it would.