British Weapon Systems - Technical data and discussion

Thought so, and thank you. Its a shame they removed Carrier Ops from SB. That would have been fun

Apparently Thomson-CSF, a French company made the seeker for Active Skyflash. Thanks to Lynkhs for these pages.

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A Fun fact for you, Thomson-CSF rebranded as Thales in 2000, UK collaboration with the company is nothing new.

This is well know about the system. It’s even been included on Wikipedia since at least 2011.

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Yeah been known for a few years now;
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was it ever actually test fired?
If i remember right gripen and tornado was meant to have these

'tis “done”

Oops All CVRTs

Green is in game, Yellow is prototypes, Red is paper proposals.
Need to go through and add local designations and find out adoption/creation dates.
Pretty sure I’m missing some minor Upgrades too. So if anyone knows anything I missed please annoy me. o7

You can find the one I made for Centurion here

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anyone know which block of f-16c, or what su-27+ refers to? mig29+ is quite obviously referring to mig-29m for example, and other planes don’t have much differences between their blocks.
doc is from ~1992

At a guess - you’d be looking at Flanker B - so Su-27S or thereabouts.

i would assume that would be the normal su-27 that refers to flanker b, with su27+ referring to an upgraded variant

They refer to time current aircraft with a predicted power increase iirc about 15%

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1992 - you only really had two Su-27s running around. Flanker B (single-seat serial production model) or Flanker C (two-seater).

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also would britain actually have performance data for flanker/mig-29? or did they just calculate it?

Its not specific to an actual variant, found the snippet:
Mig-29+ is a mig 29 with a 20% uprating of the RD33
Su-27+ is a su-27 with aerodynamic improvements(unspecified) and a 13.5% uprating of the AL-31F

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by then yes, german mig-29’s

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is their roll rate still ahistorically terrible

ngl thought 29+ would be about 29m, 29 with bigger wings, 200ish kg heavier and around 7% more thrust, but ig that makes sense that it would actually be about the german 912

I’d be surprised if they DIDN’T - given that a significant percentage of all intelligence operations were given over to gaining data on REDFOR equipment. BRIXMIS being one notable avenue.

its more about assuming practical worst case improvements for soviet aircraft and how we would compare.

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first publically available su-27 manual with sustained charts come around in the early 2000s, but ig it would make sense that they had gotten an illegal copy of it already long before then

Makes sense, thanks for the additional context.

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