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I just have the four images posted previously, and now found a couple more barely showing the sight from the opposite side, again with AS.12 carried

Ed:- couple more bad scans. Unknown source, but posted on a Wessex Facebook group

Images


Imgur Album with all images I’ve got

The black and white one I posted earlier today is from the book Wessex by Patrick Allen published by Airlife Publishing under this caption
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The book also has a full-size copy of the small photo I had of Wessex launching AS.12 at sea. Unfortunately the scan I have of the book (from Scribd) is crap on that page, but I suppose it’s handy to say where the photo can be found if anybody has a copy.
Wessex

The sight is also mentioned and pictured but not installed, in the modelling guide by Michal Ovčáčík and Karel Susa for 4+ Publication, which has been used as a reference for Wessex in various topics on the forum relating to the helicopter’s armament
https://img-forum-wt-com.cdn.gaijin.net/original/2X/9/99a41f69b7400a33e5aeaff7a382128d5e6698e4.jpeg

As an aside, the French MoD have published a really nice video about the M260 sight’s operation:

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Thank you.

Passed onto the developers for their review.

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Is anyone able to briefly summarise the difference between AS.11 and AS.12 and why having both is a good thing?
Clearly bigger number =/= better.

AS.12 is a lager version of the AS.11 and has a longer range.

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Why would you want the AS.11’s then? Or is your max 2x AS.12 and 2x AS.11? Or maybe AS.11 is more maneuverable.

Thanks.

Yeah it can only carry 4x AS.11 or 2x AS12+2x AS.11.
AS.12 doesn’t fit on the inner pylons

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what different between M260 sight and normal one

Normal H-34 lack any sight.

M260 was the normal one for most early helicopters equipped with AS.12
Wasp, Wessex, Alouette III, AB.212ASW were all able to fit that sight in the roof when AS.12s were carried or for other observation purposes, but the sights were generally removed from the helicopter when they weren’t needed
Some later helicopters that equipped AS.12 like the Lynx Mk.2(FN) (the French one), Gazelle (in Egyptian service) and Sea King (in Spanish service) used the later APX M334

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Ahhh that explains it, still I love these helicopters. It always amazes me at the Fleet Air Arm museum just how gargantuan those things are. My head is lower down than the intake it’s insane.

Unfortunately the developers have said its not possible for the sight to be ported across from the Wasp, as there are some differences in how its mounted, textures and other matters that all require considerable time and references to model. As such, it cannot be done before the major update.

Removing the AS.12 is also not an option, but it was discovered that the Type GS907/1A can and was in fact often used for AS.11/12 guidance as an option. So the sight is not actually fully required on the roof for AS.12 guidance anyway.

More references will also be needed to fully model the roof mounted sight, as we will need to know what it looks like in the interior of the Wessex. So overall this would all take a considerable amount of time.

A suggestion report can be made to log the matter officially once it becomes available with the dev server, but it will not be considered as a bug as crews often used the gyro-stabilized head-mounted sight Steadyscope GS907/1A anyway for ATGM guidance.

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My next helo suggestion will be interesting…

The cockpit is up for the AH Mk.1



one at least

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Documents relating to the Whirlwind Mk.10 AS.11 pylon installation (apparently called Conversion 1491) were posted on the Secret Projects thread


Doc1
Doc 2 (diagrams)

Matches the fittings we have seen photographed previously on the test airframe and helicopters in the Far East.

I’d be confident that Gaijin could model Whirlwind Mk.9 and Mk.10 with their respective AS.11 fits

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Great find, that’s very cool indeed :)

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This is rather intersting

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Lost the more British mod upgrade (sad)

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Yeah, this is going to be fun to get:

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7 Martlets per pylon? YES SIR!

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So 28 possible now?

Or is this just an illustrative graphic of a future growth potential?.