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And if the F-15A is playing of equal skill, the R-73s are from the front aspect.

@ChorizoBlanco
Being better in “the 1 circle” which you’re using as a buzzword, means dumping all of your energy and dying to a 3rd party.
No one “1 circles” in air RB except when there are no enemies left for good reason.

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That will never happen. As long as the MiG-29G still has ERs, the F-15A only has two choices: notch or fly close to the ground. And no matter which option it picks, the MiG-29G’s approach angle will always be from the side or the rear.

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Brother, nobody turn fights in RB period unless they are forced to because as I’ve been saying before, you will most certainly get killed by a third party. You are the only one that brings up 1v1; in a real 1v1, the F15A has no chance to win an engagement against a 27ER period, there won’t be a turn fight. And if there is a turn fight, it’s better to be able to win it in a single turn and go on your way, than having to turn for ages until you get an advantage, the latter being the only way in which an F15A will win against MiG 29.

Multipathing means I’m heading directly at the Mig-29, they can’t get rear from front aspect.

@ChorizoBlanco
Buddy, nobody turn fights in RB, because as I’ve said before, you’re going to be third partied.
Stop bringing up turn fights. No one else is.

Did you forget that I’ll have the altitude advantage?

Even if you use multipath and head directly toward the MiG-29, the altitude advantage will still turn it into a side or rear aspect. Because MIG29 will go down with ERs, so F15A cant pick up

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I didn’t bring turn fight, you brought it when you claimed the 29G can’t beat the 15A, but you haven’t even mentioned what would the F15A need to do to actually achieve it. Spoilers? Nothing an F15A can do against and equally skilled 29G player. I don’t know what else you could possibly mean by 29G not having the performance to win against a F15A.

Then why is the F15A on place 11 on Willie’s 1v1 sheet and the Mig29 is on the last place?

Don’t know man, why is F15A lower in my list than MiG 29 then?

Altitude advantage only matters for jets without >1:1 TWRs.

@ChorizoBlanco
Weird, there are zero results of me talking about turn fighting other than dismissing you bringing it up.
The only people that brought up rate fighting and turn fighting are you and YouRememberLove. No one else did.


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Well Willie is a great 1v1 duelist. And you?

The altitude advantage is for getting a clean approach angle. The MiG-29 isn’t using altitude for energy — it’s using altitude to get the optimal approach position to employ the R-73.

Yeah, sure. By the way, my list is not about aircraft with a clean configuration doing 1v1 guns-only in a controlled environment, I play RB and SB.

Okay, what did you mean by 29G not having the performance to win against a F15A? I’m listening, the mic is yours. In what scenario is performance going to decide a winner?

That MIG29SMT, and they place by FM.

If the ER is used at the right moment, the F-15A will always be forced into a bad position during the approach. The fight will be decided within half circle — if the MiG-29G can’t finish the F-15A within that first half-circle, it will lose.

It’s all the Mig29s? And yeah, they are ranked by Flightmodel in 1v1s meaning the F15A beats the Mig29 with equal skill.

There are fine when all the Mig29s in the same place, because all of them are half-circle plane.

Not true in the slightest. The Migs flight model is so terrible it’s hopeless in a gunfight, and R-27ERs can be multipathed, and R-73s are easily flared.

For air RB in general, the Mig-29G is still worse because of the much worse radar/RWR, and endurance, and fewer missiles.

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As long as what’s coming at you is an AIM-7, it doesn’t matter whether your RWR is good or not.
Missiles are also used to force a good approach angle, not just to get kills.

For example, if you’re in an F-16C and a Gripen is 1 km behind you, if it fires an AIM-9M you can flare it and still accelerate away if you do everything correctly. But if the Gripen has an R-73, you’ll have to turn extremely hard to dodge it (which never be :v), which forces you into a close-range dogfight that you will definitely lose.

And yes, the F-15A does have better situational awareness — I don’t think that even needs to be mentioned.

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And RWR matters a lot in general air RB, because you won’t just be facing Aim-7s.

Just pre flare, and keep flaring. Their IRCCM isn’t as strong as it used to be, and I’ve found it quite easily flared most of the time.

In air RB the F-15A is miles better than the Mig-29G, and it’s only in a 1v1 where the Mig has a chance.

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Your radar is broken?

Oh no, it weaker than before? I Bet i will lose!!! I’m hard lock him to avoid preflare but R73 IRCCM now weaker so that wont hit!!! TOO SAD