So instead of giving the sources, even if they’re just raws so we can translate ourselves. You’re going to vague post?
Video also includes a pilot who flies a living A6M example and even through his own admission the aircraft gets control stiffening pretty hard.
Yes because not I started the thread about “Zero arcade flight model”
And I will surprise you - I agree it shouldn’t make 14G turns another issue is that meaning “it is hard to turn it on speed xx” is just common phrase without exact data of graphics and etc and it is even more vague than my post.
Same with roll rate. There are huge number of posts saying “roll must be bad” and none which will detailed describe question of Zero roll. Who will really compare it with game and show the differences between in game pilot and what was IRL. Who will neatly sort out information about zero configurations related to the roll:
All of them should have different roll rate and for example idk where effect is better - with balance tabs or with cutted wing. Or A6M5 is the best? Meanwhile that balance tab were decreasing needed power handle like twice in compare to clean model 21 aileron
And if someone made video it doesn’t mean he absolutely correct
I mean. When you have a dude who IRL flies the zero in exhibits and even he states ‘This thing becomes a brick at a high enough speed.’
Does his word not mean anything if it correlates with other sources?
Did you read what I wrote?
And as I remember with that modern Zero flights were another funny thing where on videos it showed performances better than “absolute brick” and “zero must be break” side started to say that it was not original control system or something. So hell yeah Zero flight model is just funny story
He provides zero in-game data or graphs aside from “the USA report [on a likely damaged aircraft] says to do this and we can’t do this”. By putting data on a graph we can actually evaluate it objectively, and we can see the Zeros do compress a lot in roll:
We also have other data points.
The A6M3 uses higher stick force, so it’s not 1:1. Regardless we can see its roll rate drops off quite hard but is VERY high at the relevant speeds.
It’s also pretty convenient he did not include any interviews with the pilot(s) of Planes Of Fame’s A6M5 which is the closest to original out of all of them (and to my knowledge the only one restored with the help of the original designer), and they say it only loses its advantage above 300mph - just like the testing reports I used to make my adjusted load factor graph.
If plane attached at video is related to that pilots words so its interesting that pilot describing (if he flew only Zero showed on video) A6M2 model 21 without balance tabs what is the worst possible roll configuration for Zero
We get it, you’re a jap main and you’re desperately struggling to keep the A6M from getting it’s realistic nerf.
Did you miss a page?
Thats because the P-47D is a relatively slow climber at its BR, not because the A6M3 is a fast climber. A6M3 is pretty average for its BR and starts losing engine performance by 3km. (Plus it just got raised to 4.3)
All A6Ms are almost universally some of the slowest accelerating aircraft in a dive at their respective BRs.
??? Yes? As does anyone when engaging anything else? You’re saying you shouldnt have to think?
This and all of your posts following this about it are ignoring the main argument I have already made about this:
This is literally the only answer. They win because people turn with them. They are continuing to win at 5.7 and will at 6.0, or even 6.3 because people continue to stay at low alt and turn with them regardless of how outclassed they are in actual performance.
That said, Knowing that this is Dovah4 I am responding to, I am expecting this argument to go about as well as the .50 cal thread did.
Even then that plane isnt 100% as it wont have its original engine. The only A6M flying with its original engine is the planes of fame A6M5. With a different engine the aircrafts performance will be slightly off compared to original.
Yeah im sure its really easy for a person who mains a nation that keeps getting its BRs lowered due to lack of player skill to say that to a group of people who main a nation that keeps getting its BRs raised due to a lack of player skill.
The answer is most likely yes.
Fair enough on the later half of your statements.
95% of the player base plays the same. They keep turning. And Japanese planes just happen to favor the playstyle. It’s not the matter of an average player skill floor. Going all loopy and turny. Just like US planes making a circle fight, I see lightly armed Japanese planes doing a forced head on until it rams the target.
I am of the belief that you are completely lying through your teeth and I’m not going to give you the time of day on whatever data you give to me as I wholeheartedly believe you will more than happily mess with the statistics to spit the result you want.
bother you give nothing except “this guy said” yet you tell people they are lying. just stop, you are 100% coping at this point
Then stop crying about it, and collect your own data on it. If I’m lying it’ll be totally different, right?
Doesn’t matter if it was in purpose or accident. As I stated originally:
For the record, “multiple tons” here, actually means ~1300kg.
And I know numbers are hard, but do try to be honest.
In your “figures” you are purposefully going much faster than their level speed in order to give the Ki-44 as much ram air as you can and make up for its poor altitude performance. It’s also very convenient that you don’t have propeller efficiency nor thrust on there.
This is also a situation where P-51C was still MP-limited and could not gain any extra power with ram, while Ki-44-II could; AND at the one altitude where the Ki-44-II actually gets similar power output instead of any other where there’s a large difference. What a happy coincidence, right?
So collect your own data to prove I’m totally lying, or pipe down and get good. Maybe aim at the target instead of spraying all around them (unless you’re in a Ki-44, then your aim also becomes much better! Another happy coincidence.).
The sad part is that unironically there are many players that believe that should be the case (unsurprisingly a majority are US main pilots).
yea
most good players already do that
(this might also explain a lot of the other stuff you say ngl)
Yeah i mean,in GRB do you think before shooting someone or youre just smashing your keyboard hoping you hit the spot?All your fights are a gamble or you try to use something called BRAIN and actually try to understand the vehicles you should and shouldnt pick on?
