BR Changes - 11.3 is going to be Redfor only

If only Gaijin balanced planes based on their stats and not on whether players know how to use them or not…

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Yeah. Like people complaining about the Mig-23 FM nerfs. Im fairly confident its still one of the strongest fighters at its BR. But the key thing is you now have to use manual wing sweep instead of auto. Which takes more skill. But because most players leave it in auto. They struggle

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I have the wing sweep bound to my side mouse buttons and engage manual whenever I merge 🤣 In RB, I keep the wings swept back in the late stages of the match to force R60M headons while zooming around the map

Edit: tbqh i didn’t feel the fm nerf at all. It still slaps and the engine is still a rocket than can rip ur wings off

Yep, I need to get better at managing wing sweep now in the Tornado F3. Usually I left swept back 99% of the time as I was just zooming around the map, but now we have a little dogfight potential… Might be worth mastering (in sim, I have dual throttle HOTAS for it)

Fighting them, I share that experience. Though they dont seem quite as confident in the BVR joust, and thats all the nerf Ive seen out of them

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If only the wings adjusted a bit automatically even when in manual mode (like the tomcat does), the tornado would be even better. I feel like the wings are too flimsy and sensitive to speed, so I keep em automatic unless under 1000 kph

I use kts, but 500+ no less than 60% sweep, above 600kts be more like 80%+.

I think I prefer the totally manual control, though actually the auto does quite a good job these days. It was horrible a year ago, but theyve tweaked it to a good place I think

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Well
SPO-15 still way better than RWR on F-4J
Along with radar tbh, because MTI works into side aspect

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The premium Mirage F-1C is one of the most popular Rank 7 planes in sim. And there isn’t really much skill required to play it properly.

Pales in comparison to the F4S/ML/Su25 family/tornado and some folks insist on bringing bombs instead of the 530Fs 💀

Being an 11.7, it’s irrelevant to the 11.3 bracket, and even in the 11.7 bracket, France is paired with the soviets 50% of the time anyway. So then it’s US/Britain’s 10.7-11.0 fighters and 11.3-11.7 ground attackers Vs the Mig23MLD AND the Mirage F1C-200.

According to Thunderskill, the Mirage F-1C is the 8th most popular plane in SB. It’s the 4th most popular if you do not count top tier planes.

The planes that are more popular than the F-1C are MiG-23ML, Av-8B Plus, and F-111.

Thunder skill is not a reliable source of info. But even still. Doesn’t change the fact that the US’s best fighter at 11.3 or 11.7 is a 10.7 phantom with no PD or the F5E with no IFF and no SARH.

Britain it doesn’t get much better.

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as much as I don’t like imbalance, this would mean redfor now 1 (one) BR above rank 6 where they’re pretty good lmao

also this is funny how much you are underselling how much better the FG.1’s radar is (hint: the russians dont even have PD tech unlocked yet lmao)

Would be nice if underdog side in terms of population queuing got a RP/SL bonus when queuing. Thats asking way too much though.

Would also be cool to get more RP/SL for queing in brackets you aren’t top BR.

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Ok so?

I have had no problem taking on MiG-23ML and MLD with F4E since the flight model was changed. And the F4Es are also moving down a BR step.

Let me ask you this…

What BR brackets does red side have that are actually good in the past year? What BR brackets are they going to have now that will be good?

Top tier has been blue dominated for over a year.

The tier below that is ruled by Aim-9M slingers like
Gripen and F-15A.

The tier below that is ruled by F-16A and F-14 IRAF.

Then you have the oddball tier where all the PD Phantoms are…and they are all thoroughly mid because people returned to using multi-pathing.

And then you finally get to 11.7…which is dominated by Mirage F-1C.

11.3 is A-10C + Aim-9M slinging since patch dropped.

Like I am not saying that it’s a good thing that they are going down…but look at all the blue side stuff that is also going down as well.

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You can barely guide a Skyflash with PDV. 50% of the time the missile will miss, even if no chaff or evasive action was taken. 99% I just use SRC which is the exact same as the Mig-23MLD. Considering MTI works perfectly fine when used right as well, and the R-24Rs are better and the Mig-23MLD has IRST. They are hardly that weak.

Uh no sir? Not how missiles work in WT. Chaff requires notch or cold aspect to work. It does not work in any frontal hemisphere.

You mean blufor will just have to play the literal half dozen other BR brackets where they are the undisputed meta and this exact injustice you’re complaining about is flipped on its head and is the opposite scenario?

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Zero issues using PDV and Skyflashes on my part. Weight in seat error

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What in god’s name do you think IRST has to do with R-24Rs

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