BI-1 Is Pay-to-Win and needs to be dealt with

CAS mains, AKA, experts at avoiding AA and bomb/rocket aiming.
Not air superiority experts most of the time.
Also a CAS plane will 100% be below you, even if your “CAS expert” was at your same level, the fight still starts on the defensive and on an already inferior energy state.

it can still win if the 109 survives the headon, just shallow climb while the P-59 bleeds speed on a U turn.

but we are going off topic.

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It really depends on the grb match up, not really a time of day / hour.

Well I scored 8 kills yesterday and only died once. Wanted to see how rusty I was in ARB. Went well given it’s been years.

If you’d like a recording, it can sustain 215~ mph and continue to turn rather well without losing alt. Which also bleeding the speed of the enemy.

Tbf i do mostly enjoy sim, but pc can do some… questionably unfair things that make sim a bit unfair for us console users. Mainly it increases their visibility out of the cockpit.

CAS and CAP. Plenty of people spawn a plane just to defend against the onslaught of planes. Myself included. I even take my P-59A to 7.0 to content with fighters.

yes, but that’s tank battles, not Air arcade battles, Air realistic battles or Air Simulator battles.
that’s why also some planes have a tank battles BR separate of a air battles BR.

P-59 balance discussion can be kept for another thread,you can open one if you want. This is a BI-1 thread and you’ve been trying by pulling your experience from a totally different gamemode (tank battles) and try to justify the balance of a rocket plane that can’t be drained of speed, can’t be outclimbed, a lot of props can’t outturn it at low speeds, 90% a prop and even a jet can’t escape it, all while we can prove that the fuel problem is supposed to have can be completely negated by lowering your throttle to 20 - 50 % to achieve incredible fuel efficiency all while still outperforming opponents.
Your other argument is small ammo pool of an armament which you deem inferior simply due to caliber and nothing else. You deny proof of superior ballistics, insignificant damage differences and defend them with only your personal experience which you can’t even confirms since you don’t seem to know how important are other aspects of cannons apart from caliber and explosive filler, you’ve consistenly denied drag differences, muzzle velocity differences, firerate differences between the 20mm shvak cannon and the 30mm MK-108. You’ve also denied your inexperience in air battles by just ignoring stadistics from your performance in said gamemode, only for you to use stadistics to deny other people’s arguments, calling us out as if we are pulling straws and we are not in favour on “civilized conversations”, even when charts of performance and screenshots showing the BI-1’s perfomance. Your evidence? A video of you missing horribly and just ripping the rudder of an F-84 loaded with bombs, and another video of killing 2 CAS pilots, mostly clueless in grb.
We can akso add the fact that your BI-1 stadistics stick out like a sore thumb compared to even your other planes.
+8 people opposed you directly, your only “support” was a dude who’s pastime is getting people banned by trolling them.

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The brs for both planes remain the same in grb. Just so you know.

Grb is technically slightly harder than Arb. No markers, or warnings.

Shvak damage still isn’t as good as I Am repeatably told, and despite pretty much nobody here owning the BI, besides me, nobody has actual experience using it in battle.

Comparing ballistics to ballistics. The MK-108 and M37 hit vastly harder, but fly slower. Shvaks fly faster but hit wayyy weaker

Again, sounds and looks like jealousy because you don’t have it.

you are literally placing an example for all of my points.
One decent player could look at this tell you are completely denying facts that come from experience.
I’ll wait for the 9th person to come to disagree with you.

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I see plenty of people at WW2 brackets with the “console” icon in their name who do quite well in dogfights and BNZ alike. It’s just setting up your controls properly and messing with post-FX which you CAN edit on console.

Given you mainly fly jets, you probably have less to deal with when it comes to visual spotting , IFF and handling the plane.

I have no problem identifying and handling the plane.

I can see aircraft quite far away.

I do have a lot of good keybinds in my opinion, but it may be very certain aircraft where the trimming comes into play, unfortunately I don’t believe I can set trim without being in full real controls, which means I’d be way less accurate firing

Obvious troll.
Shvak shell does same damage as German shell with 29g HE mass, and slightly less than German 30mm shell with 86g HE mass
However, German 30mm shell with 86g HE mass deals same damage as Soviet 25mm shell with like.15g HE mass.

HE content of HE shells is basically completely insignificant in WT.

And P-59 can’t climb or accelerate and is a huuuge easy target. BI is tiny and has all the power it needs and then some and some more.

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Would you like to test you P-59A thoughts?

Or your BI thoughts?

I have both, I’m more than content to 1v1 after I complete RE9

this kid is still defending this lmao

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I feel it is worth noting certain aircraft fare better in open environments rather than raw duels due to initial speed and altitude significantly changing the environment, as well as the ability to shallow climb away and reset things.

I never see P-59 in public, but from what I read here its weakness seems to be similar to that of japanese props. Meaning, a Mustang Mk Ia can beat A6M3 and A6M5 in a public SB EC match by using its ludicrous speed (which is less viable vs mouse aim over sim, I imagine due to mouse aim accuracy). Same for F4U-4B vs Ki-84. However if both start at 2km altitude and like 15 seconds away in a head-on at the same speed with minimal room to extend away, the japanese prop will win the duel.

BI’s strengths and weaknesses are less influenced by the duel scenario given its main issue is having the ability to effectively generate ludicrous energy at any speed that props cannot match.

Bi is undertiered
P59 isnt even a threat if you dont go into a turnfight with it
go into a vertical fight and the P59 loses allllll of its energy

but the bi? faster than anything at 6.7, it outperforms everything it faces
ammo count isnt to bad, if youve flown J7E or the mig21 F13 it only has 60 rounds with an only 1 cannon so its really just a skill issue

performance wise it belongs 7.X+
not below 7.0

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most jets cant do it that well either

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and if you win, specially on the BI-1
you’ll prove it is not 6.7 material but 7.3 material.
and I know that you will fare far less better on the P-59.
Yak-3(e) you’ll probably win unless you full send the head-on
and 109Z you won’t win.

109Z is only good for climbing and headons
in a turnfight you even lose against a P38 even if both are equally skilled

more like 8.0 as its far better than Komet or ki-200 but has 1/3 less ammo to balance it out a little

Yak-3 probably depends on the opponent’s control mode.

ARB controls? It prolly wins vs 109 F-4.

Sim controls? It’s whoever is more skilled. The lack of instructor limits massive boost 109s vs yaks at cost of being able to kill yourself by pulling too hard (either by spinning out or bleeding your energy with a incipient stall giving the yak position). At least in my experience, I find myself pretty confident engaging the 3.0-5.0 yaks in my 109 F-4 and if I lose, it feels like I lost because of skill issue rather than being out-performed by an OP aircraft (or because it turns into a lengthy rate fight and we get third party’d).

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And what do you want to test? That P-59A climbs bad, has bad armanent, is huuuge and super easy to hit?
Because these are just facts
Or that BI curbstomps other planes around its BR?

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And what do you want to test? That P-59A climbs bad, has bad armanent, is huuuge and super easy to hit?
Because these are just facts

Comparing P-59A to BI is like comparing agility of Maus and M18 Hellcat…

Or that BI curbstomps other planes around its BR?

Actually even at 7.3/7.7 not much would change, but would be more fair.

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