BI should be at the VERY SAME BR as Ki-200 / Me163B/B-0.
7.7 of them would be very fair.
BI HAVE to get solid up BR, because 6.7 is a ridiculous joke… 5.7 planes like Me109 K4 or F4’s or spitfires can’t do ANYTHING about BI.
Also for some reason Ki-200 / Me 163 are 8.3, what makes BI to be FIVE brackets LOWER?
BI is VERY similar to Ki-200 / Me 163 or even slightly better so idk what happened there.
Again, 7.7 for ALL BI / KI-200 / Me 163 should be fair.
that explains why you can hit shots with it
no? the yak3e at 4.0 is superior in every way that isnt insta turn
HAH! No.
163 and Ki-200 have more fuel, are faster, and are in general easier to fly.
And yeah, 109 K4 can’t do much against P51H5NA and Spitfire Mk24 either.
i think (not sure) that the BI is lighter and therefore has better power to weight
you can fly at +600km/h at 10% throttle and cover like 42km with 4 seconds of fuel.
shvak are the best cannons of the bunch and BI-1 will rarely meet a jet except for the he-162, which the BI-1 beats in acceleration, climbrate, turning and speed
most other jets beat BI-1 in top speed, ammo pool and airframe limitation (except A-21 family), but lose on all other ends.
It has a strong power to weight, but that also causes it to compress easier.
It doesn’t get highly manueverable until over half its fuel is gone, either.
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And the P51H5NA can’t die to the BI when both are piloted by players of equal skill.
163 and BI being hyper fuel efficient at low throttles doesn’t change the realities of these aircraft.
yes it can, it means they can loiter, wait for a moment to strike, but the 163 has to use more fuel to chase korean war jets while BI-1 just needs to chase props and the casual jet.
P-51 will eventually run out of altitude and energy until the BI-1 eventually corners it.
A yak or A6M could avoid a P-51 strafes all day long until it is also cornered. it’s the same situation.
Might be okay for M&K but I cannot look around while turning, and VR and PC can zoom out in the cockpit, meaning a wider view.
So yes it is a massive advantage
I don’t target tanks alone in my bf-109Z, I do actually fight air targets, but M36s are a yummy snack as 1 30mm Overpressures them.
Yak 3E can turn good and can keep its speed up decent, but lacks a large ammo pool / guns. It has one 12.7mm and one 20mm. It doesn’t set fires like the USA 12.7s do. And is not an energy fighter, meaning you have to generally have you opponent be not very smart.
in GRB all you need to be able to kill aircraft is see them
they dont react to you untill they are being shot at by you most the time
both of them shred
ive used the 12mms only on my yak 3 lately and ive never needed to use the 20mm
ive also used the shVAK and i can tell you that it deals more dmg than most cannons while also being better in every other way that isnt ammo
it is indeed an energy fighter while also being able to be played like a turnfighter
okay lets look at another aircraft at 4.0
the Bf-109 F-4
the yak3 is faster has better guns turns better climbs better and rolls better
you can apply that to most stuff the yak faces at 4.0 (except the part that the yak is faster)
The BI doesn’t have the 4+ minutes of fuel to do that.
P51s don’t strafe, they dogfight.
In order to match the sustained turn rate of P51, the BI needs to increase its fuel consumption to ~8 minutes remaining from full, and the P51 still has a tighter turning circle.
If the BI increases its fuel consumption to increase its sustained turn rate, the turning circle also increases.
The BI has far more flaws than it has benefits.
The primary benefit of the BI is its interception speed, which is what’s needed to face bombers.
Its sustained dogfight? Bad.
Its one circle? Eh.
Its vertical dogfight? Okay.
Its two circle? Decent.
If you want only 1 frag per sortie, BI will work.
2 ore more? You’ll have to be patient.
The BI pulls well at high speeds, and not well at low speeds.
i will not say anything
(btw this is the reason why we have the P51C-10 at 3.7)
Also why are you bringing up the P-51C when we’re talking about the P-51H-5-NA?
More fuel isn’t that much of an advantage when you need 2-3x the fuel to go reasonable speeds. And gaijin didn’t even adjust their BRs after a massive nerf to the fuel load.l, which just makes the 163s bad.
The BI is definitely worse than the 163s, but not a whole 1.3/1.7 worse. My ideal BRs for the 163s/Ki-200 would be 7.7 with an interceptor spawnpoint, and the BI should be 7.3.
I’ve only seen the BI two times in a random match so far, considering they are rare it is not that bad.
Where it gets really BAD is in Squadron battles, where it dominates the meta. Whichever side has more BIs has air superiority. Which isn’t that bad in on itself, but the fact it is unobtainium for normal players and a super-meta vehicle is extremely unfair.
It’s a Yak-3 (a plane that should be 4.7), that’s missing one whole .50 but at 4.0. There are very few planes 0.7 lower than they should be, and the yak-3e is one of them.
You do realise Shvak needs 1 (one) shell to dismantle Fw 190.
Better ballistics and 100% HE belt means those 120 shells are worth more than 200 20mm shells of Bf 109 (out of these only 120 are HE anyway, and 80 are API/APHE).
And Berezin doesn’t set fires like .50 cal. It just rips your wing off with around 4 bullets, assuming you’re using 50% HE belt. Maybe even 2 if lucky, as 2 HE bullets are doing most of the work anyway
Have you tried WingalingDragon’s setup? He seems to be able to look around while turning as well.
I don’t know Itsbutters’ setup, but guy duels in 109s using an xbox controller.
With good engine control u can fly quite long tbh. Even at 20% it’s still VERY damn fast and that reducing fuel consumption dozen times.
Also BI has 80m/s rate of climb vs 25 on ME-163 and 35 on KI-200 so about 2-3x more which let u have 20% engine or less and still being fast…
Double the BIs ammo count and sure it can be 7.3
Also, the me-163s are smaller and can take more damage
