BI-1 Is Pay-to-Win and needs to be dealt with

What was I doing? How about you stop with these delusions. I haven’t reported your posts.
I’ve been in this forum for quite some time (12 years) you’re not even close to anything I’d think about reporting.

Not sure what was unclear.

Despite it is off-topic: If you do some research you find out that other 6.7 jets (i exclude Sweden) are actually older and basically just USSR prop airframes with a German engine. The FB 5 is still a 1948 aircraft; it doesn’t matter when the maiden flight of a way less powerful prototype happened.

Based on your logic a Bf 109 K-4 is a 1935 aircraft - same as the F 24 Spitfire just because their prototypes had their maiden flights in 1935.

So you are still comparing apples with oranges.

There is no German bias regarding early jets. As you are a UK fan: Convince gaijin that they implement the Meteor F 1 at 6.7 (with a top speed ~ 660 kmph) and you have a jet at a lower BR.

This is 100% correct.

From my pov this is a far stretch. Yes, they get a cut of market place transactions, but otherwise it looks more like a topic of USSR bias.

This might be true for US & USSR aircraft - but for sure not for German aircraft. Currently they were nerfed by the MG 151 “adjustment” last summer, various FM nerfs of props and most recently by the fuel nerf of the rocket Me 163.

Whilst US jets of the Korean war era sit at the same BR as a 1944 production Me 262. So too low BRs nerfs just via the MM…

I kindly ask you to stay on topic. Thx 4 understanding.

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That was a level of “Im making shit up” that I could never anticipate of. “spitfire turn in 8 seconds” is crazy.

Just to be clear, I was talking about pure jets, not established planes that got stuffed with a German engine after they capitulated. But enough of that topic.

Yeah, that will go over well. Everyone knows Gaijin hates Britain. They are more likely to put the Meteor at 16.7 before they ever put it down to 6.7, that’s just the honest truth of it all.

I really don’t believe in Russian bias, then again, I’ve also fought against plenty of Russian mains and have actually used Russian equipment to know and understand that Russian stuff is not that good, it’s more of an issue of noobs being sad their “invincible” Leopards and Abrams cannot destroy a T-80 just by looking at them. Same with jets, Russia is just average, but American mains think they can dogfight, and German mains just believe that the Luftwaffe was somehow indestructible and they shouldn’t have lost the war.

Ah yes, I forgot Germany got a nerf in the air last summer. Not like they needed it, but hey, most German mains accepted their air sucked, but as long as Gaijin doesn’t destroy their tanks, they’re OK.

As I said, now that I know a bit more about the BI beyond, “it’s too good, please nerf” I can see why it should go up to 7.0, I still believe 7.7 is too extreme for a prop, but that’s why I’m not in charge of balancing. I like clear boundaries, not randomly throwing things at random BRs.

Holy bait

Guess you could call it the master?

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the BI is the ONLY plane i cant deal with in any way at all when I fly a mk24 spitfire, meteor or hell even something like a hunter isn’t gonna be able to take it on.

It not being at 8.7 as its a infinitely better Komet is insanity.

Russia already has OP stuff at that BR in the SU9 and SU11 they don’t need the hypersonic stalinium rocket there too

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I’ve found it to be very untouchable when playing the Mig-9 Late, and that’s a very well performing plane for the BR that flies better than the Su-11 in some ways. So a 6.7 is impossible to deal with in a good 7.3 plane.

Atleast dealing with Me-163s aren’t hard because they’re higher in BR (and overtiered), but they also need to use higher throttle settings to get the most out of their plane, while the BI just doesn’t.

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I just had the most immaculate fight with a BI-1. Rate out of 10:
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At this rate, the BI-1 will be a 5.0 plane.

Managed to find a picture of the pilot:

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Yeah, dude is a real WT legend. and yeah a lot of BI users are not much smarter than slightly below average chair.

Somehow i feel the need to fly the He 162 and 262 A-2a. But i remembered why i stopped playing them: The BI at 6.7

So i created this:

Likes would help to increase gaijin’s attention…

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Of course you’d say something like this since you and the statpadding clowns in your squadron abuse it all the time.

You guys are so amusing ^^

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This is insane. BI cant kill Hunter no matter what and Hunter can easily strafe BI.

Because it would be playable at 8.7? Get real. You have a habit of exaggerating massively.

lol

Depending on the choices made by both planes, the BI can self-bait the Hunter into a bad situation. The BI can control it’s position and energy really well, and combined with the fact that the Hunter needs to get into position for a kill, allows the BI attempts at baiting for a safe speed range fight. The Hunter can’t change directions fast enough for it to be THAT easy to strafe the BI.
Both planes have the tools to force a stalemate against each other: The BI has vastly better maneuvering at speeds below 700 KMH TAS, and better climb, whereas the Hunter can render the BI useless by going faster than 700 KMH TAS, or getting to higher than mid alt. The winner would be decided by which pilot is better at managing energy and baiting the opponent into mistakes.

In the context of team fights, the BI would be a good asset by baiting enemies down to the deck and bleeding their speed in turns, and if the BI is ignored, it can easily 3rd party any nearby turnfight, or instantly teleport a couple of KM upwards to do the same.

Personally I think all rocket planes belong to 8.0. As a 7.0 you have the option to stay safe against the BI and Komet.

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BI players should be punished by forcing them to experience 8.7 for a while, their sins are too great.

Wish I had the BI, I’d bring it to 8.7 uptiers. I’m sure they’d be a lot of fun.

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The hunter struggles to drop under 700kph even if you try to. It has extremely high MER. The BI on the other hand can’t do anything at all past about that same speed due to massive control stiffening and a low ammo count.

This is an extremely easy fight for the Hunter, and an extremely difficulty fight for the BI. They should never see each other in gameplay.

It’s fairly trivial to drop speeds by forcing a spiral upwards. The BI can bullshit it’s way upwards (while sitting in the Hunter’s 2x bigger turn circle), negating the MER on the Hunter. I do agree that the fight would be a lot more difficult for the BI, as the BI pilot needs to keep track of many more things than the Hunter, but the BI does have tools to fight back with.

There is no forcing here. Hunter can take its massive speed advantage and go straight into a small climb that extends itself away. You can literally force head ons if you want and you’ll still win because your guns are 10x superior on top of your FM advantage. The hunter never has to fall for any of this crap the BI tries to pull. The BI doesn’t hold any initiative.

Now I really want to see good players enact this BI vs Hunter scenario haha

It would be like Fw 190 A5/U2 Pre-nerf vs 4.3 Spitfire Mk IX, with 1 difference. BI never runs out of energy, while well flown Spitfire eventually will end up low and slow if Fw 190 guy is setting up properly and starts with big energy advantage.

I mean, if BI guy can dodge properly, GL Hunter. But if he dodges at wrong angle, it’s over.
Hunter will be on the offensive, but IMO the fight would be super frustrating for Hunter’s pilot, unless he has some insane precogniton and can anticipate BI’s dodges.