BF-109s/FW-190s feel over tiered and could go down

dude American 12.7s are lasers what

Better than the D-9?

I don’t see how the K4 is 5.7 BR. Its got the same gun every other 109 uses since 4.0 BR. For GRB its just one bomb and the flight model is not really convincing. This single 20mm cannon was good as long as mineshells were better than the rest, but now its clearly lacking.

There are enemy planes at the same BR with far more 20mm guns, using superior shells and better FM as well. Planes which also carry alot more ground ordnance for GRB purposes.

For the 109 family is just almost zero progression. One 20mm (MGs generally do nothing) and one bomb.

It has 30mm actually, but TBF not that big of a difference. Vs like 4 20mm it’s still worse.

For that, actually same fire power since 2.7, and the change to MG151 actually needed a 1.3 BR rise is crazy.

You should swap it for the 20mm MG151, its better than the 30mm. I don’t like the 30mm MK108 with its anemic 4mm pen, even worse ballistic, rof and less ammo.

I just like the ability to one tap people, 151 doesn’t do enough, less even than some 15mm. I also intercept bombers a bit so it comes in handy.

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the k4 is one of my favorite planes and is balanced at 5.7, you have an amazing climb and engine retention as well as finally good top end speed, the only problem is 5.7s like the yak3u. And yeah mg151s are ass but if you crit someone you just need to make another pass, if you’re taking the gun pods, stop they ruin performance

I use it mainly as suicide drone in GRB. Thx to SC500 this makes most sense. Everything else can be done better with other planes. Well, I never coped with that Mineshell HE and ballistics nerf. I still remember how great 109’s were with that MG151 engine cannon. When I see how meh 109’s firepower has become, It just makes no fun to play anymore.

But 5.7 u either meet 5.0s which in this case u will have slight advantage but only 1 like speed against Yaks and turn vs 190s, but almost never both and u will always have a tough time. I just get so many kills stolen after MG151 crits that I really hate it. I got sth like more assists than kills at one point.

okay, use the fw190f8 then bro it has an 1000kg bomb

yak3u is actually much faster below 12k feet, it can cruise at 380mph at sea level oh and it also out turns anything besides a zero, seriously, how is this thing 5.7

I was referring to the lesser YAKs that u see on down tier. But yes they are near super nice. Although I find it funny how Yak 3U to others is like 190A to D.

Indeed :) But this one is too good to waste it as suicider. You can mount the big bomb, a bunch of Panzerblitz rockets and you have enough guns+ammo to efficiently strafe lights.

If the RB BR’s are similar to Sim then the 109 and 190’s are fine. Yes the Yak3U is a menace but fight him up high and let him suffocate. This goes for almost all Russian aircraft. If you fight down low you fight his fight.

So u are limited to boom and zoom essentially, and u could barely do that, Yak3s are faster than 109s at same tier and much more manoeuvrable than 190s at the same tier. Often more firepower than both as well.

This is super hard to do when the Yak-3U out climbs and still has better sustained performance against most 109’s. This could only really work in isolated cases where you can 1v1 him freely without outside variables in play.

I find the VK107 fitting on its 5.7 BR, it has 20kmh less topspeed than the 3U and requires MEC like the VK107 engined Yak-9’s cause of how easy it is to overheat. The 3U need sto be at 6.0-6.3, the normal Yak-3 should be at 4.7 and Eremins could be 4.3

VK seems to have insane instanteous turn. I don’t really feel like it’s slower at most combat altitudes. And speaking of MEC - it’s absolutely nothing compared to the nightmare that is Ta-152H with unmanageable oil temps unless you are willing to run 70% rads with 10% engine power loss unless it’s a winter map.

It does lmao, I’m not going to lie. It has a higher top speed of I think 20kmh more than the 3U? And it’s engine for its airframe is insanely good. I did have a rough time when I had to out-speed Lf. Mk IX’s, A7M’s and even Ki-84’s with it.

It doesn’t really climb well too right? Like compared to the 109’s. It’s mostly carried by its airspawn and great MER plus flaps from my guess and its experience. But against it I haven’t had a hard time unless I’m being pushed with other planes.

Yeah u can sort of just climb in a fight and stall out anyone who comes near. I would say 190D9 is better at climbing and 109s are just far enough down that they are sort of ‘uptier’d’ into Ta152, but I really think they lacks a bit every where.