BF-109: the worst fighter series in the game

it was accurate then like what ?

the 20 MG-151 has 19 grams of filler which is HA-41 which is 1.5 times more powerful per gram then tetryl

while shvaks hispanos and colts have 7gram of tetryl which is equal in power pergram to TNT its accurate

and it has a trade off of having poor ballisitics compared to other 20mms

if anything hispanos and shvaks and colts are OVER PERFORMING

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i agree i prefer early 109s to the 190s at similar brs

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lil bro if you think 8g of explosive should be doing the same as 29g then I have a premium to sell you lmao.

And best at what? they still have far lower velocity and are borderline useless past .5 of a mile lol.

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190s are genuinely just terrible and show they don’t care, they’ve had so many needs over the years with zero br changes, honestly how in the **** is the f8f lower, a LITERAL super prop.

Warthunder LOVES selective realism, irl the fw190a4 was a monster and made a big shift in air power, in warthunder it’s mid at best.

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They need to climb because the Boom and Zoom or energy fight is the only tactics that might help them to score a kill, and you right about some of the plane good climb while slow and the others is the opposite, but they are much better than the 109. Taking Spitfire and the Mustang for example as the good climb while slow and bad climb while fast, the Spitfire is slow but it climb rate can out climb the 109 and make sure they got the height that can change into speed aka the energy; while the mustang having the speed that allow it diving from 3000m having the effect of others plane diving from 5000m. And we haven’t consider they all have more superior firepower than the 109

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problem with that is there is atleast three fighters that out climb you by a considerable margin and they always will be higher

I last played the Hungarian F-4 months ago, it is still playable but 20mms are as worse as hitsparkno’s right now. Try the classic BnZ and first concentrate on US fighters.

The FM issue is partially the weird control logic of slats, back in other threads someone demonstrated that the slats allows up to 15% higher turn rate. Same with engine cooling especially for F variants.

That one really sucked. 5.3 sure but you will still suffer cause the engine is worse.

The issue with that is playstyle. That means it is sadly unfriendly to players, since u have to adjust against every enemy, and in not even full uptiers you will see planes that can just slap u in every way.

I mean I liked the 3.0 190A, but beyond that they are pretty sad, D9 is good though, the rest of the A variants suffered significantly.

They are similar to early Hispano but there is just one 151, with worse ballistics, and for earlier ones u’ve got 7.92 as the side instead of 50 cals.

That pretty much works for everyone, but u have to first ensure there ain’t any P38 or super mustang above ur head.

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I don’t know man, the F-4 and G-14/AS were pretty good when I played them

Mg151s are good again, they basically perform like DEFAs now (ie literally incinerate or just critical sim)

BF-109s in general climb well with good altitude engine performance and are all-rounders in most everything else. For the meta they are just worse in most ways against the soviet counterparts because high altitude performance isn’t that relevant if people ignore you at altitude and start ground pounding to bleed tickets

lol, lmao even. f4 is okay she probably the best new player 109, but the g14? lol
and mg151s aren’t defa/aden LMAO, they’re still literally worse than any other 20mm, but are now usable.

Nah not really

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elaborate, go ahead lil bro and explain how a gun with a lower rof, velocity, and damage is somehow “perform like defas”

Tldr you can’t and you’re coping because of a victim complex or something.

i made a performance discussion for 190s

Are you alright man? No need for such anger

I same they are like DEFAs because of how they feel right now. I have been playing a decent amount in the Re.2005 VDM and the MG 151s are crazy good right now.

They are for SURE better than Hispanos and some of those incredibly low fire rate low velocity Japanese guns

rip old fm old bmw801 old instructor

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Is English your first language? genuinely no idea what you’re talking about lmao, also I’ll just say it again as you’re clearly having trouble understanding, mg151s have the lowest rof, velocity, and damage output regardless if they’ve been buffed they’re still by far the worse.

Something tells me you’ll try and “read between the lines” instead of answering a simple question however.

Alright man, I’m just not going to interact with you because it’s clear you can’t have a conversation without crashing out

I was merely providing my experience, and in my experience right now they are better than some other 20mms and in general pretty good

I don’t know what the MG151 did to you, but it seems you have some deep hatred against it

I accept your concession, and I see I was correct, mg151s are the worse 20mm and your experience saying they’re better than type 99-2 or Hispanos are hilarious.

You are a really stuck up guy lmao

Honestly there are some good redditors and ragebaiters on this forum, but I think you are showing some promise to overtake them