As one of the main figther series in Germany tech tree, Bf-109 seem good if looking the data but the reality is it just jack of all trades master of none. If we take the best variant of the 109 which is the f4 (personal opinion) and compare it with other plane in this BR it will at the lower part of the list. Unlike the Zero or the P-51 which having a significant advantage and disadvantage that lower it’s rank, it just not good as all aspect and gamemode. Even the Fw-190, the another main fighter series is better (but also quite bad while comparing to other TT) than 109s in some aspect. Some of you might said “skill issue” or try to prove me wrong by sharing your KD, maybe you right but just like British tank, what they can do the other vehicle can do it better so why I want to play it? Because I hate my life? Or just to play a plane with a 20mm cannon + so called minengeschoß round which worst than 12.7mm Ho-103?
idk
U can check the stats of vehicles on statshark, the BF-109 isn’t bad compared to other vehicles
They are excellent. Do better. Sorry.
Nope, although it not the worst but it is bad.
there FM arent bad but the meta for props is cannons and they have the worst 20mms in game which btw should be the best 20mms ingame but they arent
Yeah, you can keep lying to yourselves. At the end we still need the 109 players like you as turkey to keep maintain the turkey number on skies, and keep the ARB turkey shot game moving 😅
compared to what it faces at its br it only maintains its good KD cause german prop players have to be skilled or they die
109s have never been in a worse state then now basically everything at there br beats them the YAKs are gonna be your biggest problem and Spits cause there under tiered
sure bud.
the only sigular 109 that still good is the 109G-2 rest are just mediocre
i take 190s over the 109s just cause how bad the guns are you need 6
german ww2 stuff just gets power crept to death
I took out my 109 G6 earlier, the Mine rounds are imploding people’s balls again so that was fixed.
But this “now” already exist for few years already…
The Bf109s are pretty good planes.
The only drawback is the instructor mode in air realistic significantly hampers their maximum performance. Air RB to air sim - it’s night and day.
The Bf109 F4 is indeed probably the best. Very nice turn rate, good engine power. I love them. They’re my most played aircraft in sim these days, surpassing even my F4U-4 or Mustang Mk Ia! I’m confident in saying that if I lose in the bf 109 f4, it’s because I messed up and have committed skill issues, not because the plane has let me down (except vs Ki-84/Spitfire Lf Mk IX that shouldn’t be 5.0 in sim).
I find myself struggling a little with gustavs as they’re neither as turny as a F4 nor as ridiculous in climb as a K4 AND they love to stall and spin quite readily.
The K4’s main drawbacks are being the same BR as F4U-4B and 6.0 being Ju-288 territory, making it only playable 2 days in a week due to Ju-288 ruining 6.0, 6.3 and 6.7 days.
I half wonder if this is due to ARB’s engagement ranges? In SB, I find the guns pretty effective. I’m also shooting from 200-300 meters and aiming for center mass or engine.
Have a recent gameplay outtake comparing the 109F4’s guns in Warthunder vs Il2:Great Battles
In Il2:GB - the spitfire died from pilot snipe but remained in one piece despite being shot at by a Bf109G6Late.
In Warthunder - the P-51 EXPLODED into flaming debris after being shot center mass.
…that you created a new thread, despite that we already have one:
No need for a 2nd thread…
In AB Bf 109’s are one of the best fighters out there.
The few times I tried flying them in RB, they were so bad I just returned to hangar
and never used them again.
Not sure about Sim, but it would seem that the mode you choose to play them in
has a LOT to do with how well they perform as the fm’s vary widely.
japan main discovers props that arent instant win turnfighters
this is just skill issue tbh
The increased control forces above 520 km/h likely make the Bf 109 harder to handle. Personally, I find the Bf 109 T-2, a great turning fighter, the strongest and easiest to fly among Bf 109s.
Me waiting for Gaijin to give German 20mm cannons realShatter so they perform more accurately [better].