Best starter plane for SIM

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I would say it depends on your speed.
While climbing the WEP+100% radiator should be the most effective way.
At top speed most, if not all of the extra power from WEP should be eaten up by the increased drag of the cooling flaps.

In general I would not bother too much with MEC as a sim beginner. There are enough (and more important) other things that need your attention. You can open the radiators to 100% while takeoff and climbing and then set it back to auto when you have reached your altitude. But that´s all you need for the first months.

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For props I would say, try the FW190s. (Especially the D-9)
The controls are super precise and responsive, you have good weapons and plenty of ammo. But they are no turnfighters, so don´t even think about pulling against a Spitfire. Stay fast, dive in, climb out, repeat.

If you want a turnfighter, try the Yak-3. Its a little monster at low altitudes. Easy to fly, good cannons.

As said before, spitfires are super wobbly, so not the best plane to start.

You should test fly some planes, get a feeling for them and then choose those, that feel good for you.
( e.g.: I don´t like how Bf109s or P47s fly. It just doesn´t feel good for me.)

For jets I would recommend to begin with the F-86 Sabre (The german CL13 MK6 is the best imo. You outturn and outclimb almost everything) But other Sabres will also do.
They have great cockpit visibility compared to Mig-15 and -17 and plenty of ammo, so you can practice more.

I wouldn´t go higher at the beginning, as you need to build up situational awareness before you add more distractions like Radar, RWR and so on.

So set up your Track IR.
The most important thing in sim is observing and understanding your surroundings.

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That would depend on the aircraft, but usually I cruise faster with “infinity wep” settings on any aircraft than on auto engine control at a non-overheating power setting.

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Okay, thanks! I’m really looking forward to 109’s in sim!

I’ve thought up some more questions.

Does the F4U have the bad over the nose visibility like IRL? Also does it have the problem with torque if the power is applied to fast? Like it’ll roll over?

Are the 109 and 190 good planes in sim? Like once I know the basics.

How about the P-51?

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The f4u does have poor visibility over the nose because its so long. And most props will roll hard if you crank the engine too quickly. 109 is fairly easy to fly and pretty forgiving. The fw190 is not forgiving at all but is quite good with a pilot who knows it.

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Corsairs have a quite big nose, but you can move your head up and down with Track IR, so that shouldn´t be an issue.
Torque is always a thing in sim, especially at takeoff. So be gentle on the throttle and counter it with pedals and stick inputs.

109s, 190s and P51s are all good planes, but you have to fly them right. Means: use their strengths and avoid their weaknesses.

190s and P51s aren´t good turners, but they are fast. So keep your speed and you are nearly untouchable, unless someone dives on you with 800 km/h. Best way to play is boom&zoom.

109s should be more forgiving, as they can do everything quite well and are good in vertical maneuvers.

If you want to pull circles then go for Yak or Zero.

There is no “best” plane. Just find one that fits your playstyle and feels good. Of course cockpit visibility is a point too.
Just test fly everything you find interesting.

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What rank V Sweden jet do you have? If it’s the J21, It’s okay to start with, but I’d take the J29 or J32 over the J21 any day, better handling and control, I suggest using full real and running SAS damping mode when in reg flight, but if your dogfighting, turn it to regular and you have more control. Jets are superior in every aspect of flying for beginners compared to Props, I’d personally stay completely away from sim props. I assume MEC is “Manual Engine Control,” I don’t run MEC, I just fly, tbh, dogfighting kinda sucks if you don’t have VR or easy tracking/auto-tracking.

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Simplest to start with would be an early jet - no issues with torque and no oil/coolant/cowl flaps, no prop speed control, just a throttle, so MEC pretty much = AEC. Something with a decent bubble canopy giving all-round vision would be good too. Bearing in mind the research you’ve already done, one of the Me 262s in the German tree would be good, either the A1 or A1/Jabo. The USN Rank Vs are good and have bomb/rocket loadouts for ground attack, but don’t have great rear wards vision. From memory, the F-84 and F-86 have better views towards the 6 o’clock, with the Sabre being the best pure fighter and the F-84 having great air-ground loadouts.

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JU87. that is all.

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Okay, thank you to @Ruskie_Turtles and @LeoNerdo for helping with those planes! I just wanted to know if they were worth it before wasting time trying to learn them

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A21RB…

Okay thanks

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Oh, and BTW, stay low, it’s harder for them to see you, especially since you top tone color matches most forest colors.

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Alright thanks

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OOOO that’s smart. Thanks!

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:P you could always ram :)

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Okay…

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This might be a weird suggestion, but the A6M series is great for starters.

Not because they are particularly good or anything. But in a fight they are intuitive. The reflex for beginners is to dogfight. This is where the zeroes dominate.

Yes it teaches you suboptimal tactics like to always turnfight. While it relies on your opponents to make a mistake rather than your own skill, this also makes it the best to get your first kills.

This makes learning sim much less frustrating, which might be more important in the beginning, than learning to fight effectively.

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I see the point, but wouldn’t yak 3 be the better choice?
It can also turn very well if you give in to the craving, but isn’t so limited in other disciplines.
Plus, OP has soviet TT at rank 4.

But in general you are right. For the first kills without much frustration a good turn fighter should be a better choice than FW190s or P51s.

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Yeah sure the yak should be great as well. Any good turnfighter will do. Preferably one with a good ammo capacity to learn gunnery. I just used the A6M as it soo easily outturns everything at it’s BR

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Hmm okay. I don’t have any, expect the float one, but I’ll look into them. Thanks for your suggestion!