Yes, but gaijin doesn’t care
LMAO ok so the M11228s at 10.0 get better thermals AND M900, the 2S25M gets top tier round at 10.0 but the AGS gets a 0.7 BR increase(effectively putting it into a constant uptier to top tier) because of a 20 mm extra pen? Come on…
AGS has gen 1 thermals and a 10.3 round, fighting top tier? Thats bullshit.
Give it M900 at least or keep it at 10.3, with or without M833
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Wouldn’t it be better to increase vertical targeting speed on the main gun instead of giving it 3BM60?
Personally I think that 3BM46 is a very good round for its BR. I think that the thing that hampers the 2S25M performance is the slow acceleration (especially uphill) because enemy MBT’s are often before me in key positions and the poor performance of vertical stabilization which makes fighting in close combat often very difficult.
In conclusion I think that making one of those things better would be less invasive on the tank and would make it a lot more fun because of possibility of agressive plays and rewarding good marksmanship instead of relying on very strong round which would propably increase this tank BR in the future.
gaijin. before putting the AGS at 11.0 FIX IT FIRST!. give it it’s Ammo Replenisher,Spall Liner AND A BETTER ROUND LIKE M900
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The Italian f104 g should go down to 10.3 as well it has less missles then the other f104’s I belive that would make it better for the Italian grind. I just recently unlocked it and it’s rough getting up tired in it to 11.7 or so at its current BR of 10.7. This is a change I’d like to see!
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Response to new changes and reaffirming suggestions from the original version:
All commentary is for RB.
Planned:
(CN) F-104G
10.7 → 10.3
While it may be less effective compared to other versions, the F-104 family as a whole seems to be consistently getting downtiers due to poor weapons or defensive abilities. However, this is another example of the ongoing issue of BR compression, as the flight performance of the F-104s generally make them untouchable (especially the early models).
M48 Reload buff
8 rpm → 9 rpm
This is fine, as it brings the tank in-line with other M48/M60 style tanks, most of which also fire at 9 rpm. However, this brings me to my next point:
Suggested:
CM11
12 rpm → 9 rpm
There is absolutely no reason for this vehicle to have a 5 second reload when literally all other M48/M60 tanks with 90mm and 105mm guns have a 6.67 second reload. The turret layout is nearly identical to a vehicle like a Magach 3 or M 48 A2 G A2, both of which are also re-gunned M48s turrets.
B-26C (France)
4.7 → 4.3
It is identical to the American version, which is moving down this update.
T-55AM-1, T-55AMD-1
8.7 → 9.0
These vehicles are very similar to the ZTZ88B and A and should be considered a contemporary of the Leopard 1 A1 or Type 69-IIG, not to mention the gun-launched missile capability. Many vehicles at 8.0 and even some 8.3 vehicles struggle significantly to fight them, as their additional armor and APS can make them extremely tough to kill. It also is another example of why the previous decompression changes need to be considered again.
M113A1 (TOW) (CN)
Rank V → Rank VI
It should be placed at Rank VI, similar to the Italian and Israeli versions, and put in a folder with the CM25.
I will also reemphasize the fact that 2 major rounds of decompression for tanks have been more or less erased. The April 2023 BR changes, which moved most 9.7+ tanks up one BR, was undone by the August 2023 changes, which did the exact same for most 8.0+ tanks. Now, tanks that used to be at 8.7 and 9.7 are now at 9.0 and 10.0, which means only a small handful of vehicles actually saw any benefit from these changes. Those changes made in August were also somewhat undone by October 2023’s changes, which moved several 5.7+ vehicles up, although not too many vehicles from the 7.0-8.0 itself moved. However, this just created additional compression, particularly within the 6.0-7.3 region. After all the shuffles of the last year or so, the only lasting benefits of these decompression updates has been to a handful of 4.7-5.7 vehicles and a few 7.7-8.3 vehicles.
Battle ratings in Ground (and Air, too) need to be expanded farther few of the long-term issues have actually been corrected.
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The amalgamation of stats used to determine the BR of vehicles is trash, and needs to be changed.
M900 for AGS Please!!
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The outrage about the final changes not raising the F-15 to 12.7 is simply astonishing, not to mention that they mostly come from British mains, but anyways.
Cope and seethe all you want guys, the plane underperformed and it wasn’t by simply skill issue. Variants with somewhat different IR missiles (AAM-3/Python 3) and even better playerbases (JAP/ISR) were not raised in BR, they could’ve done that, but it just didn’t, as the snail is probably working on the F-15C.
Guess you’ll have to work your kills harder on your Gripen, boys.
My best guess is that the F-15 will be moved to 12.7 as soon as the AAMRAM drops, but I still find it weird as to why Gaijin doesn’t just move it now.
MIG29G should not be 12.7 it suck at radar and no agm missiles or guide bomb. it way much worse then mig29smt . if it 12.7 mig29smt should 13.0. and mig29smt got 60+56big countermeasures . when most other top jet got 100+ even 600+ why you say it got good countermeasures?
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I agree with you, but gaijin doesn’t care
Dear Gaijin,
Please put the Type 87 RCV down the 8.3 its literally useless at 9.0 thanks.
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I respect your opinion, but for me it shouldn’t be 10.0, for a simple reason, it can not defend itself while the other can, you can mentioned the ozelot cant not too, but the ozelot has its own advantages like thermals, a radar, and being literally a rat in size.
true 72av should higher then 2a4
Gaahhh, why must Gaijin continue bullying Japan. Makes no sense to move a zero, any zero at this point, up in Br. Japan can’t have nice things at all…like at all. I’m ok with the Type 81 C moving to 11.0, just hoping Gaijin finds a way to allow it to use its new missile for longer range. At 11.0, it still slaps most jets hard except those that climb to space beyond 10km. The Strela will take its place at 10.0 so it all works out there.
Ima continue this trend lol
+1 Dear Gaijin,
Please put the Type 87 RCV down the 8.3 & Type 87 RCV (P) 7.3 / Add Type 16s missing Type 93 APFSDS / Undo every Japanese plane Br increase (My guy J6K1 bout to fight 7.7 jets…💀💀💀)
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true 2s25m good enough it should not have 3bm60 and 9m119m1 and it even have Amphibious and Hydropneumatic suspension , or move it to 11.7
pantisr -s1 should at 13.0
So no spall liners that were promised for the arietes, Italian top tier is sad at the moment you really need to fix it
if strela in germ then true but russian ? really? when su25 using s25o on the sky you say jet too powerful??