Battle Pass - you did it WRONG

Many, but not all. I did not mean all events, but within reasonable time event, you should be able to get a vehicle from the previous event.

It is subjective, there are thousands that are spending money.

as there are more stuff coming into the game, that also introduces more bugs. which means that more people fixing bugs might seem as if it was the same to begin with.

Gaijin has balanced cash grabbiness and f2p effort with this event. They could make the event generate more profit for sellers of vehicles by increasing demand by making the event harder where the seller/buyer population is 50/50, but they have chose not to do that as it would make it harder for the f2p player to get the vehice. The amount of effort is used to regulate the amount of demand. They could increase it for profit.

I think the current amount of 40k rp is alright, as it generates enough demand for selling to be effective without kicking all the f2p players in the ass. Take effort away, the people who grinded the vehicles to sell will be upset that they can’t sell the vehicles for a reasonable amount of profit. Increase effort, sellers will be happy, f2p grinders unhappy.

Would you like to continue the discussion in dms? I should mention it again that this thread is about battlepass instead of events…

Many, but not all. I did not mean all events, but within reasonable time event, you should be able to get a vehicle from the previous event.

You can get some vehicles, sometimes after an event, that still doesn’t’ do much for the last 10 years of vehicles however.

as there are more stuff coming into the game, that also introduces more bugs. which means that more people fixing bugs might seem as if it was the same to begin with.

Only stuff is just new vehicles.

The amount of effort is used to regulate the amount of demand. They could increase it for profit.
Take effort away, the people who grinded the vehicles to sell will be upset that they can’t sell the vehicles for a reasonable amount of profit. Increase effort, sellers will be happy, f2p grinders unhappy.

It’s going to scale either way, people wouldn’t be upset if they could not sell it for as much if they also didn’t invest as much time either, that’s a pretty logical outcome.
If the requirement was halved, the prices were reduced in theory and more people would be able to get it, I don’t see the problem with that.

Even if most of the price is dictated by the ability to purchase the tasks and the cost of that.

Battlepass isn’t that much different, you just pay for the privilege of grinding and if you don’t grind enough you don’t get anything and your money is gone.

I don’t participate or purchase the battlepass since I won’t be able to complete it and get my money out of it, a more accessible and consumer friendly battlepass that is either to complete would lead to more people purchasing it.

Private messages, yes, no?

I wish they’d make the BP bigger and remove event quests because casually putting some time in every day is way more fun than being browbeaten into trying to put 4-5 hours in a day to get event vics. I just buy the event vehicles I think are worth it and move on with life, but the BP formula is easygoing enough that it suits me, personally.

keep it up … I like this.

Everyone eligible to play it, is playing it. How hard is that to understand in the first place?

What is really hard to understand is this:

How do you manage that? Is this your first pass? Have you collected the finished challenges? Do you have a special task running all the time?

How is it possible not to get this. If you improve it, streamline it, made it more accessible, more people would actively pursuit /purchased the BP

If you put the tasks that were done automatically no matter what or how you play and easy to follow progress, I would done it.

I don’t want to go into the menus, read, calculate, watch dates and play the nations, BR’s and game modes I do not wanna play. I have already gave an approximate example of how this should work.
3/5 Easily done generalist tasks that can be done at any game type, any BR, any vehicle.

I pretend that BP does not exist. I just play the game. I do not go out of my way to accommodate BP.
This is my fun, I refuse to make it into my job. I’ve done 9 special tasks. I may do more. We already have conditional challenges on these. More is not needed.

Make it easer, entice more people to participate, more to reward, more money to collect from the players, better income.

I feel like I’m speaking Russian sometimes. How can you not get it?

Why do you think people would generally purchase the pass before they purchase other more benefical things? Because otherwise, the pass would be limited to people who already spend on say Premium etc.
Are you saying the pass will be the first thing a new player or f2p player would spend money on? Is it even in the interest of the company that it is the first thing? I don’t know and I am not going to call your statements dumb or anything because you ultimately don’t know either.

I agree that the menues could be better and that tasks and challenges could release their points right away.

OK, and the game rewards you with a new vehicle once in a while. Probably even one from the ignored pass. You don’t even have to pay.

So you’re unable to see “make the pass more accessible” to “sell more BPs” correlation?
It’s not like you have to be an Einstein to extrapolate that conclusion.

I play battle passes in other games too, y know.
My diablo BP says, “conquer the lvl 50 dungeon.”
It does not say, “Conquer lvl 50 dungeon, with the class you do not play, in multiplayer that you do not participate”
They are smarter then that.

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Ignorance isn’t an insult like so many take it. It just means ‘you don’t know and don’t know you don’t know’ there is nothing insulting about that. Everyone is ignorant to lots of things.

Thorien has been using the term “dumb” on my statements and others. I would use “false” if I had facts to contradict it.

I agree with 80% of it.
The player should not have to jump through hoops to finish the BP, but also he should not be able to finish it through random casual play.
There should be a minor element of extra effort to finish the BP, preferably in the form of some unique challenges that should be fun, not exhausting.

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But he didn’t use any insults in that post so sarcasm as though he did is in this case misplaced.

I’m really trying to be maximally polite to you believe it or not, but the essence of our arguments could be summerized in this way

Me: “Guys SL economy is this game is too steep, it demoralizes new players…!”
Dodo “Akhtually, no”

Me “Guys, these events are too grindy! I don’t wanna work 3 weeks like on my dayjob to get feeble copy paste TT vehicle prize…!”
Dodo “Akhtually, no”

Me “Guys, this BP is stupid, nobody plays it, let’s make it more accesible so that everyone could have some gains…!”
Dodo “Akhtually, no”

So you see, I’m doing my best : )))

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I think I provided more data here about the pass than you did, while you provided more speculation about buyer choices than I did.

And you being maximally polite is like

It isn’t just towards me.

How far are you in the current battle pass?

he should not be able to finish it through random casual play.

Why not? I ignore battlepasses until I get to a point where it’s worth purchasing it, in WT ignoring it gets you practically nowhere, so I continue ignoring it.

For comparison I have been playing a different game where through casual play I got to level 50/100 after just playing the game for a week and there’s 6 more weeks left so I’ll easily complete the BP through random casual play which means I’m very likely to purchase the BP and get all the rewards from it, whilst I have zero reason to buy the WT BP.

Also for some idiotic reason, the GE prices increase on the later ranks despite the rewards not improving whatsoever…

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