Back to back dissapointments with new jets

do you know what the eurofighter and F-2 have in common in game? both were overhyped in their respective trailers and gets their fair share of lies and broken promises, for starters both lacks quite a lot of radar features, armament and historical stuff like the laser guided brimstones on the EF and on the F-2 side the HMS which might be the worst one even though its modeled in the jet.

im pretty sure this will be a rising trend so these jets wont overshadow the US by giving them gimped stuff at launch.

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So the same thing with the Tornados the Gripens ect ect ect?

What did you expect?

consistency, hyping jets only to make them sub par and DOA just to babysit US mains and french mains at toptier is a scummy practice.

devblogs and trailers shouldnt hype up a vehicle only to backtrack and not add what they promised, when they approve the suggestion on the forums they should be upfront on what it will/ will not get in live server.

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French mains? Babysitting?

What are you on about. Just because France currently has the best top tier jet? Have you looked at anything else? Top tier ground for example?

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tbf the leclercs are very good tanks and just prior to last update the ITO-90 was the 2nd best SPAA in the game, we already know france and italy are getting their SPAA next patch

not to mention the refale getting multiple buffs making it over preform, at least it was nerfed last patch

They never promise anything.

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That would create so many issues with balance. What if it’s later reported on features the vehicle has or or never had and they feel the need to change it and remove/add that feature based on those reports?
Like you yourself said:

So if they are upfront with what they are getting and can’t change it later that would be a really bad thing. You might not like how it currently works but what you suggest would in my opinion be a worse option.

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Ok, tell me which US jets are so OP according to your statements?

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Well the leclercs are good tanks but the armour is still nonexistent (getting front killed by anything above 9.3 pretty much) the round is fine but it’s still the second worst top tier round.
The main point being that they are not handholdy. And even less than a year ago the first 2 leclercs were fucking ass to play since they were 12.0 and 1 rank lower than the others for some unknown reason and had to play with stock heat at top tier.

also it is possible to be handheld in ground and not air, or the other way around. I do think the choice to continually buff the refale when it was already shown to be over preforming while then nerfing the EFTs to the point they are now underperforming was incredibly dumb

I’d rather judge a ground tree by what support vehicles are available to it. Unless you like bringing out MBT after MBT. Wake me up when France has more viable IFV and other support vehicles at top-tier. Heck, they can’t even bring the Mephisto to top-tier as it doesn’t have tandem-head warheads like AFT09.

You can bring the vextra. But yeah support is lacking and gaijin just says screw you you’re getting dutch copy paste leopards.

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pls dog, the french have a singular meta jet. I’m not saying it can’t be nerfed, I’m saying stop trying to pretend gaijin has a french bias lmao. Gaijin has literally never loved France and the Rafale being meta is the first time in years that I remember a french top tier being meta.

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No they’re not lol they’re like 6th or 7th best and that’s if you rate them very highly.

It wasn’t much better than the other VT-1 user and both were about 30% as effective as a pantsir. The pantsir itself was about 10% effective against a decent CAS pilot lol

I swear those that only want to play major nations always have a cry whenever a minor nation like France gets something good.

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The entire USA air tree is pampered, handheld, cushy etc except for the fact the props are difficult to learn due to them mostly being relying on BnZ tactics. That said, the props are also usually 0.3-1.0 BRs lower than they should be lmao. The jets are pretty much universally meta in some way across the board as well and unlike the props take very little skill in comparison and are in line or easier than other nations jets.

It’s just a symptom of gaijin balancing around player stats and not raw plane performance and the USA playerbase is massive and unskilled generally.

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you do realize all buffs/nerfs are not made because something needs it but because a historical bug report was made, yes? It doesn’t mean the changes are historical but it means its based on gaijin thinking they are (this is the general application anyway)

So is the german and russian playerbase XD

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in ground I agree, but in the air the USA is far more unskilled due to their playerbase being about 10x as large as the 2nd largest playerbase

Me watching a F4S fire off all 6 aim7s in quick succession.

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going for high PK!!!