ASEAN Founders Ground Sub-Tree

I never seem to have said that the Japanese air defense system is better than the Chinese one. In addition, yes, the Type 11 air defense may not be the best one, but it will definitely not be the worst either, which in my opinion is enough for the subsequent development of the Japanese air defense. What do you think are the disadvantages of Type 11 in the game?

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I’d certainly like to see the Korean sub-tree enter China, but I’m pessimistic about the outcome of this matter. Also, this is a survey from Chinese players about MBT, so we really think that Chinese MBT in the game is really bad.

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The downside is that Type 11 is not equipped with radar.

Didn’t Gaijin say that new air defense mechanisms are already being tested? I think that the ammunition box mechanism is designed to test such an air defense system consisting of multiple vehicles. And there are many countries that have this kind of problem, so I think Gaijin will come up with a solution.

Generally the Type 11s main issue is the fact it has no integrated radar which means search is done manually by just looking around.
It also only has 4 missiles which is by itself not too bad because of the ammo boxes making it 8, but is still a limitation compared to other SAM.
And its range is stated as “15+km”, which Gaijin will just read as 15km, still less than a Pantsir.
They are also fire and forget, which means there is no self defense capability, since it has no cannons either.

It’ll be a decent system, but no search radar from 8.3 onwards only to never match the range of other top SAM isn’t exactly the greatest outlook.

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Or in fancy word: BIOLIDAR (Biological Light Ditecting And Ranging)

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Correction: F-15SG is a direct upgrade, with better engines (F110-GE-129C), better radar (AN-APG63 v3 AESA), actual CAS capabilities and better/wider array of air to air missiles (AIM-9M, AIM-9X, Python 4, AIM-120C7/8)

Calling it a sidegrade is misleading and a misrepresentation of the aircraft, and putting it as a premium is just a kick in the nut.

The issue of armament should be carefully reviewed, since it is sometimes difficult to find photographic material of the armament of Singaporean fighters to corroborate that they actually use certain armaments. In the forum suggestion neither Python 4 nor AIM-120C8 are mentioned.

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AIM-120C8 is a recent purchase, Python 4 has never been publicly known due to massive OPSEC reasons, and it will very likely stay that way.

This is the issue with Singapore equipment in general, just like Israeli OPSEC, we are extremely tight lipped on many things because there’s no real reason to show our absolute best to the neighbours around us.

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Gaijin uses photos as a primary source, if there is no photo of the aircraft carrying a specific weapon then it is not added, since there is no evidence to prove it regardless of whether it is in the air force inventory or not.

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I’m not disagreeing, I’m literally just putting out reasons as to why researching on SG equipment (and Israeli as well) is much harder than most nations because of said OPSEC.

Take for example the unknown data of the AMX-13 SM-1, its claimed to have an upgraded power pack, a stabilised turret and shoots 75mm sabot, neither of which we can prove.

Or the “Tempest” MBT, which is a refurbished Centurion Mk.5/7 of sort with an L7 gun and a new power pack as well, problem is there is literally 0 evidence of its existence and the only photo that exists isn’t proof either because there’s no obvious marking that it belonged to the Singapore Army, and till this day it is still being denied of its existence.

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+1 I want it now and if I don’t get it now i’m gonna start crying cope and seeth, Because jap tree is lacking LIME UP and some GOOFY vehicle ikr is gonna take YEARS for this to become real and come to think of it Gaijin hate fake tank and paper airplane and Japanese tech tree is start to running out of content and this ASEAN sub tree gonna save this miserable (My Beloved Child btw) tech tree and WE japan main will wait we will wait for this to save our beloved tech tree
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you are not allowed to use red text btw

Not anymore Dawg do i have to become Mod to use it?
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Yes

the doro will take over the japan tree

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