quite a late one but R2Y2 is going to be remove from JP tech tree on April 30th, could this mean for making room for more ASEAN Founders members (on air side)?
Yep, means one line is open starting at rank 4.
Seems quite perfect for an Indonesian line if we want to go by the two subtree dynamic other nations go so far. That would also be the first (maybe second if you count BeNeLux) time that the two subtrees get dedicated lines.
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Recent News; FA-50M Block 20M are taking final shape - delievies to take action in 2026.
(Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) Chief General Tan Sri Mohd Asghar Goriman Khan’s visit to Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) was his participation in a test flight aboard a KAI-owned FA-50 fighter jet alongside a test pilot)
(RMAF Chief visited Hanwha Aerospace and Korea Aviation Engineering & Maintenance Services (KAEMS))
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What upgrades does that version have over previous ones?
PhantomStrike AESA radar, able to sling AMRAAM, one of the first to include refueling probe (won’t matter in game but it’s something)
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I posted that a couple of days ago, I hope gaijin brings in Indonesia imo it’s the best option to couple with Japan and Thailand’s current hardware and options for the future, unfortunately I posted on the ground thread lol
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rather this than just the thai tech tree for japan, adds in some massive gap fillers
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Best case scenario a nation mix just like Benelux or rather Bene since Luxembourg is only moral support lol, but multi nation subtrees are already a thing so why not, to me adding Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia and Philippines as yet another mix would make it the most complete it could ever be, but if I have to pick just 1 more it’s definitely Indonesia
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Just a friendly reminder. We Thailand Ya just bought Gripen E/F with some Meteor missile
Tu tu tu tut tuu Hallo You order ASEAN air force? Fuiya it meta outside and You got every thing everyy thinggg
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Gripen E does sound nice. Sadly it will only be delivered in 2029, so it can’t be added any sooner than that.
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I realize getting five might be too much, so personally I would choose Indonesia and Singapore, maybe Malaysia if we could get lucky. We’d get the F-18 and MKM as well :)))
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Yeah I would be happy with Indonesia + Singapore or alternatively Indonesia + Malaysia, it would definitely be enough, and to be clear I meant the other nations as just a vehicle here or there perhaps even as event vehicles, not every single vehicle of said country as that would be pretty much impossible
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yea while it looks like would be Indonesian only subtree line but a little in me think it could be Malindo subtree line just for the combo and vibe, despite indonesia has more offerings for every rank from 4 till 8 which:
- rank 4 P-51D/K and Ki-61
- rank 5 MiG-17+CA-27 and MiG-19+MiG-21F-13
- rank 6 A-4E and Hawk 53/100
- rank 7 F-5E and Hawk 200 (AIM-9P)
- rank 8 F-16A OCU (12.3 without AIM-7 (and with AIM-9P-4(or P-5?)) unless going for eMLU with AIM-120(though the Thai one is just as similar as it)) and Su-30MK2
may be packed if Malaysia being part of the line, which Malaysian air collections starts at rank 5 since ours don’t have prop fighters ever since Malaya federation period (1957-1963) until getting CL-41G in 1967 which is 4 years after new federation of Malaysia formed. which in the case would be:
- rank 5 CL-41G and CA-27
- rank 6 A-4PTM and Hawk 100
- rank 7 F-5E and Hawk 200 (AIM-9L/M)
- rank 8 MiG-29N (or pre-2000’s A?) and F/A-18D, mixed opinion on Su-30MKM as it either in tech tree or event/squad plus the debate ongoing earlier, still no idea if FA-50M should be in or not (guess not)
(also ignoring the MB-339 since it was never used as attack aircraft, as the role was taken by A-4PTM and later BAe Hawks)
so yeah both are crowded to be in combined subtree line unless messing up rank 6 and 7 since both have near identical jets going on (just minor detail changes like the F-5E tail on both nations), rank 8 may able to be foldered by BR of each jets(?), rank 5 still a challenge (or CL-41G could be event or battle pass like the Strikemaster(?)(would be pain if it’s the latter but can’t do much anyways))
meanwhile, I could see Philippines could be combined with Singapore since there’s not much going on later rank for Philippines, and Singapore could fill in rank 7 and 8 (still have mixes in 5(unless indonesian bombers do fill in those) and 6?)
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i feel its better for the Cavalier Mustang II to be included rather than the standard P-51D/K, since the Cavalier is a bit better and also was operated by just Indonesia and El Salvador, and additionally both nation’s cavaliers are not the same either
Also for the Su-30 I think putting both is not that far fetched (maybe) since they’re both a specialized variants and are not the same (Malaysia’s Flanker-H compared to Indonesia’s Flanker-G/G+).
Although, The MKM is slightly better and a bit more unique, (I mean you can argue that the MK2 is technically more unique since it doesn’t have the standard Su-30 Canards), but regardless i feel the Indonesian one would probably better off be a prem or event, but that’s just my opinion
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for me, if both Su-30 going to be in tech tree it’ll be on the last vacant line aka bomber, sharing with F-15SG (following US and UK bomber line style), while every F-16,F/A-18D and MiG-29 of Mal-Sing-Indo is going to R2Y2 line. Still messing up for what comes before rank 8 and after rank 5 (again, if Tu-16 or Il-28T to be added) in G8N line though since the 5 nations don’t have heavy strike jets between Rank 6 to 7, and had to fill with mix of jets from Philippines and Singapore which I assuming if R2Y2 line is for Malindo
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it really boils down to the limited line available unfortunately since its already 5 i dont think a new line is feasible
all the more reason for the proposed subtree rework since it would solve these issues
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I just think for the future Indonesia would be the best given it has more things in their order book, F-15EX, Rafale F4 and eventually the KF-21 sounds like a line extending beyond other Asian countries, the only other one would be Singapore but that would have less variety than Indonesia really, which is why Indonesia + Malaysia could be a very good combo, or all 3 at once with jets added where applicable, but don’t get me wrong I really like your post it’s quite detailed, and agree with it
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yeah definitely, though F-15EX-IDN, Rafale and KF-21 is still a stretch to be add into the game for now, maybe after rank 9 is actually made I guess. Though, Rafale could be in, for which:
funny enough Rafale was offered to RSAF back then when competing against F-15SG, but eventually F-15SG won the procurement program, so it could be foldered with F-15SG albeit different jet type. It sounds weird but hey, possibility is still unknown. But then again, F.4 Rafale is far advanced to what we have rn (or at least what I’d think rn). Why Rafale first is because at least that’ll arrive first before F-15EX (and we may wait for the US tree to get it first too).
The only major difference between the Rafale in game and a real F4 is the missing AASM-1000. Every other major upgrade has already been applied to the F3 (for some reason).
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Oh yeah by all means I don’t mean adding those jets right now, it’s just a long term scenario for the tree content wise
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