I’ve had it save me from KH-38s and Spikes before rather readily. Its one of the only redeeming qualities of the Chally 2 BN. Would be useless at top tier otherwise
Yeah… Sad Chaly 2 TES/OES noises. Should be about 4x more effective than it is currently. I had to be really careful when I was trialing Brimstones the other day on the EFT and how I emplyed the Brimstones. If i fired from the side, 100% gurantee that they would survive because of the ERA, so I had to attack from a dive every time.
You answered my question mate was just about to edit it and ask if they were only 1s around.
then yes two nerfs to it, genuinely no answer for that other than its gaijin.
for example: another british vehicle with similar treatment, the shir 2 gets the L15A5 round ,which is in game identical to the L15A3, but in real life, was in service with the mk5 and onwards and could go through the front of a T64A UFP at near 2000 meters.
Yet in game its arbitrarily the same.
they gave typhoon nerfed brim 1s when it didnt even use them.
the 20 GBUs are GPS guided but, which as i stated anything for ASB or air for htat matter i wont comment on as the brim nerfs is stupid but for GRB or GSB like we said limit it to 6 FnF and then X amount of sal capable or somewhat.
I freaked out about it! to the point i got removed from the WT reddit at the time.
It was and is a horrific unbalance. and I will not say that its anything but that.
The 15E is ridiuclous it can carry GBUs and 6 mavericks as well. I dont see why people are flipping their sht over the F15E.
two wrongs dont make a right, the fact the F15E is absurdly over power for GRB doesnt mean we have to make the EF2000 more potent.
I dont want to see it nerfed, Its a fantastic air frame and should be done justice.
However as ive stated countless times, the game still is not ready for any of these platforms. They should NOT have been added what soever to ground realistic or simulator battles.
Because it shows how devestating the platform can be.
that is all.
the fking phantom was far more dominant than the tornados in ground, even in ARB the F3 was the only reasonable one for ages.
they also slaughtered the su27 and mig29s FMs not long after they released when it comes to air craft in this game they just pander to US platforms.
hence why the F15A sat at 12.3 while the rest where 12.7.
the F15A was “bad” at cas, with 3 x tv guided GBUs and 4 x 9Ms and an insane FM.
I still actively use it in GRB for its cas cabilities.
Because those people cry the loudest that their techs getting stomped.
BTW im not advocating for it to be A historically nerfed, im just trynna work out a way that they can genuinely implement it without blowing up half the roster as it is such a potent platform IRL.
apologies if that sounds like i meant you mean that it must be FnF thats not what i mean.
I mean that I personally do not want to see more long range FnF missiles into the ground scene of the game right now without a proper way of balancing all of these platforms.
Not artifically nerfing one or the other.
wont hear an arguement here as i said in one of my other comments.
It makes sense if they changed it for GRB and then for ARB was different. they split the BRs why not split the systems.
Brimstone use sal in GRB and FNF in Air? that i do not have a response for, ground IMHO influences too much and its the game mode i play more, i dont want to see jets nerfed in their entirety just to suit one mode.
they riot if you so much as mention something like that.
Which is literally what i’ve been saying and what I said originally in this thread and in all threads on this matter.
My only MAJOR complaint about the lack of FnF for the Brimstone is there performance in air modes. I was looking forward to finally getting revenge on the convoys in Air SIM. But alas, that was deemed too OP.
The reasonable limit would be 6.
And a hard no on this, I have seen hammers take out a few in a row, same with 65’ds. I never see with such regularity, the kill feed swamped with 4-6 agm-whatever kills. That title belongs squarely with the su34. Which happens with such regularity you see why everyone makes posts about it. Agm 65’s and now hammers and aasms are the standard, kh38s are a cut above by far.
a hard no to what? xD to what ive seen? ive seen more eurofighters rinse lobbies than teh su34s.
The su34 when it dropped sure, as only the 16C could contest it in the air.
Ill try find the game i had yesterday when 2 EF2000s literally wiped 12 of us out including our su34 and pantsir.
Sounds to me you just want the Su34 nerfed and your little toy buffed, since the Rafale which is even more cancerous as the Su34 is not even mentioned here.
Or the F15E which can carry even more payload than anyof the others. including 6 agms and then GBUs ontop of that.
Its 2 important difference though.
KH-38s are fast, really fast. You are left with very little time to react and defend against KH-38s, but given far more time to defend against AASM. But they both have the same major issue. IOG. Why MMW was removed from the Brimstones for balancing reasons but not IOG is beyond me.
Pantsir. A Pantsir can be a threat to any and all top tier aircraft and it only costs 70 SP. If you have 2 or 3 up, you are fairly safe from most CAS, especially as the Pantsir can reliably intercept incoming missiles. But every other nation is screwed and has nothing that can hope to even threaten an Su-34 let alone kill it, unless its played really badly unless they spend 700 SP on a CAP aircraft.
If you are opposed to the KH-38 being nerfed and having the IOG removed for balancing reasons, then you should also be against the Typhoon being ahistorically limited to Brimstone 1s. Otherwise, you just sound a bit hypocritical.
Strange, costs me 594 for a gripen with 4 R darters and 2 9Ms.
or costs me 500 odds for the F15A with its full 4 x aim7m and 4 x 9M loadout.
Where are you getting 700 sp from?
Fairly fairly certain the Typhoon is about 700 SP.
Sea Harrier FA2 is about 600 ish iirc. Fox-3s add about 100-200 SP. But even the none-Fox-3 aircraft, 500-550 SP is still way too much if spawning an aircraft is the only meaningful defence against CAS. Especially when the Pantsir only costs 70 and is effective agasinst most CAS
(thats total with A2A fit)
Bringing PW4s or Brimstones is only 216 additional SP btw. So its nearly as expensive to Bring a Typhoon for CAP as it is to bring it for CAS
Again the gripen is still under 600 with 4 R darters and 2 9Ms for me those are fox 3s.
while it is high, its extremely easy to attain that level of SP .
You wonder why its 700 sp youve got 10x missiles on it. For cap you only need the amraams. the 9Ms are pretty pointless.
You are adding literally more SP to it that it doesnt need.
exhibit A.
54 SP for that loadout.
you taking far too many missiles is not a cap SP cost problem
Thats not how SP points work. It solely goes by the most expensive item to equip. You could run 1x PGM-2000 and 12x Brimstones on the Tornado Gr4, the SP cost would be the same if you ran 1x PGM-2000 and no Brimstones or 3x PGM-2000s.
I had a single AMRAAM, therefore it was that extra cost. Same for the Gripen. Whether you have 1 R-darter or 4, the cost is the same and if you replaced one of those R-Darters with an AGM-65, then the SP cost would be the same regardless of how many R-Darters or AGM-65s you had equipped.
then remove the amraams its as simple as that.
So amraam adds nearly or over 200 sp but an Rdarter adds 54?
or wanna explain this one?
both are on the gripen, both from teh match im in right now in GRB. Suffering with the CR2s but still.
update su34 in our team got one kill with his 6 x agms.
rafale managed to get shot down but got off these 3 shots before hed even been into spaa range.
the Su34 is not the only one of these platforms that needs fixed.
Because thats the primary weapon of the Typhoon and how are you meant to deal with an Su-34, or F-15E or Rafale spawning with ARH if you only have a few Aim-9Ms?
Or even nothing. I have no idea. but I would guess R-Darters are just that bad.
Sea Harrier FA2
Typhoon
Gripen SAAF
So Typhoon with AMRAAM is more expensive than a Typhoon with PW4s
I will say this again, they should have removed the IOG. They remove FnF from the Brimstones, but wont remove the IOG from KH-38s or AASM
I tend to spectate for about 30 seconds to a minute after death to them, most kh38 slingers these days have enough sense to stay out of range and by the time they do get close half the teams already dead and the game as good as lost. Adats is just free food to them
Theres more spaa in game than just adats.
Direct you to the screenshots above.
Rafale is better cas than the su34 and still got taken out by an ITO.
Not cap
It’s a flying airbrake.
Typhoon is fine as it is right now, it’s incredibly powerfull. And the Rafale is straight up busted.
Within the context or a Typhoon thread. Thats either one of the 10.3s for Britain, The OTOMATIC for Italy or one of their 10.3s or the FlakRad and whilst the FlakRad is okay, its still not likely good enough
If the Su-34 is a bad airframe and therefore needs MASSIVE buffs. Then where are the FnF Brimstone 3s for the Tornado Gr4?
and the Su-34 is just as busted. But clearly you just want to nerf everyone else so that your toy remains the best right?
