Artifical ground attack nerf Eurofighter vs SU-34

then remove the amraams its as simple as that.
So amraam adds nearly or over 200 sp but an Rdarter adds 54?
or wanna explain this one?

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both are on the gripen, both from teh match im in right now in GRB. Suffering with the CR2s but still.

update su34 in our team got one kill with his 6 x agms.

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rafale managed to get shot down but got off these 3 shots before hed even been into spaa range.

the Su34 is not the only one of these platforms that needs fixed.

Because thats the primary weapon of the Typhoon and how are you meant to deal with an Su-34, or F-15E or Rafale spawning with ARH if you only have a few Aim-9Ms?

Or even nothing. I have no idea. but I would guess R-Darters are just that bad.

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Sea Harrier FA2

Typhoon

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Gripen SAAF

So Typhoon with AMRAAM is more expensive than a Typhoon with PW4s

I will say this again, they should have removed the IOG. They remove FnF from the Brimstones, but wont remove the IOG from KH-38s or AASM

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I tend to spectate for about 30 seconds to a minute after death to them, most kh38 slingers these days have enough sense to stay out of range and by the time they do get close half the teams already dead and the game as good as lost. Adats is just free food to them

Theres more spaa in game than just adats.

Direct you to the screenshots above.

Rafale is better cas than the su34 and still got taken out by an ITO.

Not cap

It’s a flying airbrake.
Typhoon is fine as it is right now, it’s incredibly powerfull. And the Rafale is straight up busted.

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Within the context or a Typhoon thread. Thats either one of the 10.3s for Britain, The OTOMATIC for Italy or one of their 10.3s or the FlakRad and whilst the FlakRad is okay, its still not likely good enough

If the Su-34 is a bad airframe and therefore needs MASSIVE buffs. Then where are the FnF Brimstone 3s for the Tornado Gr4?

and the Su-34 is just as busted. But clearly you just want to nerf everyone else so that your toy remains the best right?

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Where did i say something about nerfing anything ?

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Typhoon never used Brimstone 1s. So by saying it shouldnt get Brimstone 2s is saying it should be ahistorically nerfed for the sake of balance.

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I use aim9ms in grb on the f15A to deal with cas.
The smokeless motor is a death sentence, even taken out ef2000s with it.

You dont always need the most.

How can that be? The two ARH missiles in tbe screen shot are the same to spawn it with 2 and 2 9ms it costs 190 odd.
But for 4 r darter and 2 9m its 54.
Makes no sense

The gripen screenshots i sent you were all the south african gripen in tbe british tree in my last match.

Theres an ITO in sweden, france, and a vt1 slinger in germany.

Whats the relation to spaa and them only mentioning adats.

Were all painfully aware its not the best.

Edit forgot about the tor and the new tor

Who cares ? I don’t see many Typhoons in reallife pulling 15g all the time either, yet here we are.
Su34 is just more braindead to use, i would still take the Typhoon over it in any scenario.

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Since when did the SAAF Gripen have AMRAAM?

Aim-9M costs 54 (it should cost 0)
R-Darter costs 0
AMRAAM costs 190 (it should cost 0)

So if you play Britain, Italy, US, Japan and Israel. Sucks to be you.

Though Germany can sometimes do something, its rare. So that just means that Sweden, China and France have something might be of use. Still not great for most nations.

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Then submit a bug report for it then

Its accurate to all available IRL data and its funny watching people try and nerf the Typhoon only to get rejected because they are using bad sources or the fact their data does nothing to actually argue against the data already submitted.

If Su-34 or Rafale can be at full power in terms of guided CAS. Then so should the Typhoon.

We need CAP nerfs and the removal of Pantsir and toptier CAS.

thats my name for the loadout as a joke seeing as the R darter is one of hte worst ARHs in game.

Yes so i have.
2 x aim9m and 4x R- darter and it costs 54. in a custom loadout.

Yet with the premade loadout with 2x aim 9M and 2x R darter it costs 190.

The adats missile buff has imrpoved the capability of the missile in closer quarters so when someones actually in engement range. but yeah unfortunately mate it does suck. the Type 81 for japan is my next spaa and its lethal apparently if used right.

Im sorry but the VT1 thrower for germany ive seen do plenty in many matches, as for the ITO and TOR they are absolutely good SPAA, not a case of “might be of use” they are of massive use to teams.

Rafale isnt as far as im aware at its full capabilities.
and again, saying the typhoon should be at its full power in terms of guided munitions means 18 x brimstones FnF .

which obviously isnt balanced.

Personally id rather see all of these gen 4.5s and gen 4 strike craft removed from GRB as they are nothing but a bloody plague.
regardless of spaa or tank you use.

We need a balancing patch or overhaul for the game at this stage. its ridiculous that all of this nonsense is on going.

Okay, that is wierd

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Yea im sure a pilot really enjoys pulling 15g and the plane as well.

and im sure the tanks are all fighting in 16v16 matches in random locations across the world in random war games with random teams.

its semi realistic for a reason mate.

I dont want the typhoon OR any of these jets to stupid power houses.
But complaining about hte Gs the typhoon pulls while the F15s can pull 14Gs just aint it mate.

Its why when people say ARH missiles cost a fortune im always like wtf is going on with my game xD

So submit a bug report then

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People keep trying and they keep getitng denied because its accurate to teh currently available data