Harrier without WEP will out speed a Hunter quite happily and out accelerate it too. The fact you can then WEP ontop of that is even better.
Not sure what overheating really matters. Just manage your engine temps better. You only need to be at 90% throttle most of the time in a Harrier
So you agree?
The Aim-9Js at 10.0 arent all that special compared to the Aim-9Gs found on a large number of 9.7s?
Though I was referring more to the Hunter being better than the Harrier. Id consider the Harrier the stronger platform in most cases. Even in its nerfed state
From my own flying a harrier at the brink of overheat (97% throttle) with full battle load reaches about the same speed as a hunter whose battle load is significantly less give ot take a couple mph.
Harrier absolutley outruns it tho as it accellerates better.
Also turns better but because it still loses too much energy and is missing top end thrust then becomes a brick
hunter F.58 was 9.7 when i played it and i was dogfighting everyone at lowspeed high speed you name it
IT WAS key word WAS op its 10.0 where it belongs now compared to other 9.7s it was insane AIM-9J
hyper accurate guns and very good energy retention it was my goat for german air
But it has the exact same FM as the Hunter F6 at 9.7 and the FGA9/F58 at 9.3
The only really notable thing about it was the AIm-9Js and CMs. and out of those 2. Id consider the CMs the more valuable asset.
As for low speed dogfighting. I would not recommend anyone doing that.
Also not the words Id use to describe the 30mm ADEN.
They have the advantage in the Hunter of being mounted in a good place, which means you arent fighting wierd gun positions or angles like you are in the Harrier or Lightning and going from 2 to 4 guns means you put out a more consistant blast of rounds. But they are still 30mm ADENs with pretty extreme ballistic drop off making them some of the harder to use guns at that BR.
If you are careful. I tend to find that if im not, they have worse energy retention than most jets