There’s also F-4F KWS to consider at 13.0 who is the EJ kai but with slats and faces everything short of the rafale, su30, etc
I remember someone saying the EJ has objectively worse FM cause it has no slats, unlike the E.
Ok, F-4C has a worse FM than the F-4EJ
This is true. F-4EJ Kai is much worse than most 12.3.
It’s flight performance just sucks.
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No the F-5 is not OP, it’s slow and except the A10, everyone can choose not to engage with it and third party it later. Basically the Zero, except you can actually dogfight it outside the mach 0.9 sea level rate fight. " MiG21s only 200kmh" faster as if it wasn’t enough?
F-5’s 20mm are NOT better than gsh23l, in fact they are just a tad better than mauser bk27 in damage and they suffer from ridiculous speed drop after exiting the muzzle.
I haven’t had issues dogfighting f-5s. The F-5c is slightly harder to deal with cause it turns slightly better in stall fights but the f-5e is easier to deal with cause it overall is more of a one trick pony than the f-5c since it becomes a brick at any speeds higher than 940IAS and at 940IAS it needs to spam W to avoid losing all the speed.
Yeah Hunters, super OP. Totally. You should all play them more.
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you only say that because you cant aim, you proved that in your thread yesterday
honestly, the ones without countermeasures are very dman powerful as a STR gunfighter, my highest kill games have all been in the F6 or FGA9. as soon as you give them countermeasures thats an aircraft that ought to be near to 10.7, basically where the F-5s currently are because of how undertiered they are
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The main con of the F-5E FCU I have is how everything it faces at it’s rank and higher easily outruns it
Still has 4 good all-aspect missiles but you need to find an unaware target to use them on.
its the turnfighter problem, but its also got missiles strong enough to lock the victim into the turnfight no matter what. the FCU id still argue is a little too low considering its still seeing plenty of subsonic frankly trash aircraft (hawk 200 RDA or harriers & similar) however that is slightly more of an issue with them being extremely overtiered than F-5s being brutally oppressive of everything else in the 10.3-11.7 BRs
The F6 and F1 are not very damn powerful.
They’re slow, turn very poorly, and retain energy too well to the point that it becomes a fault.
the F6 is overtiered, should be 9.3 with fga9 and the f1 is great for the BR.
just below supersonic and stays there in turns, so more than fast enough, especially as it does it at any altitude but you can bleed speed off if needed (if you need to slow down youve screwed up, just like how a f-5 plays)
4x SRAAM are definetly a lot better than 2x Aim-9E. So 9.7 is fine compared to the FGA9s 9.3.
But they need to decompress 9.7 because its a mess
Should never have gone to 10.0 though
(should be changed to the F6A so it can get drag chute though)
sraam is still an unreliable mess, especially for a launch slower than 500mph. useless on gr1
Below supersonic in a BR where most things are supersonic is not good enough.
The hunters do not play in the slightest like the F5, the F5s are actually good.
SRAAMs have an IRL min launch speed (cant recall what it is off the top of my head). But they do have issues they never resolved with the overhaul. But Id still take SRAAMs over 9Es personally.
thats either bias against hunter for some reason or massive skill issue, or both
id probs take the 9e
You have virtually zero games in the hunters, you do not know what you are talking about.
ive got a couple hundred live matches in them, and plenty more in customs. notably more than you.
thats actually you
No you have less games than me, and worse performance in them than me too.
They are not good planes, you are delusional if you think otherwise. Especially if you think they have anything on the F5s.
Simple as.