And I have already answeared.
No real answear.
But they did already change it quite a bit, bomb fuses got a rather long timer, which made suicide bombing not viable, and more recently fighters don’t get ground markers anymore, which makes them pretty much only useful as bomber interceptors or bomber protection.
I know, I had shown you answered…
It explains how I do not see it as a killstreak mechanism by dint of how I see the game to be played, just how you might see it as one due to the way you see the game to be played; neither of which are incorrect as there is no definition set by the game as to match structure, it is just how you see it and approach it. I can understand more than my own take on the game and accept other players opinions, what you stated is more opinion than a fact of the game.
Just in case you are not familiar with ABGF:
(as you slipped to RB when you mentioned requiring SP; I get what you meant though AB works quite differently with more of a defined structure set by the game, RB being more “do what you want with what we give you all”).
There is no SP in AB. The mode produces “waves” in which previous actions give all the opportunity (depending on how quickly you can click the button since limited spots) to be an active part in the air wave (similar to how implemented in Ground PvE).
The spawn is also oddly balanced in terms of air v air and how easy it might be for the attacking side (each wave has one with interceptors and the other ground attack with escort) to get to attack ground units. I always felt you either had no chance as the interceptors are too close (even for escorts to react to, if they bother) or next time the interceptors have no chance to get near before you have engaged the enemy ground forces (usually one run since waves are time limited and your ground vehicle is afk still). But that is a topic by itself, it is rather random.
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The issue with bombs is if you drop them at high altitude there’s no whistling sound until the bombs are about to hit. You get no warning to move and if you drop a bunch of 1000-2000lb bombs into one spot you can get 4+ kills easily.
On the flipside bombers are way too fragile. I’ve literally been instantly killed by pilot kills in the first burst or the plane dies in <3 from a single fighter.
My opinion is that CAS should stay. It’s fun to shoot fighter planes as spaa. But but but. Remove bombers. In last game top enemy player got 11 kills. 3 tank kills and then 5 kills with Pe-8 and three another kills with some kind of Dornier. So get rid of bombers should solve part of the problem. Another thing is suicide/kamikaze players. In RB planes cost spawn points so players are trying to stay alive and destroy as much they can before other plane or spaa shot them, or they crashed. RB player needs to stop air raid at a certain height so they don’t crash. Suicide player in AB can diving and shooting much longer because they don’t plan to survive it. It doesn’t cost anything. It does not penalize them in any way. Example Stuka need to exit dive about 400-500m from ground to not crash. Suicide Stuka can fire whole way until it crashes into tank. It’s about 3,6 seconds longer. Here are more ways to improve this. Penalize suicide players, Make suicide kills way less awarded or let’s turn it around. He crashed because he wanted to kill me. So give me also credits for kill because he was killed because of me one way or another.
Yep.
“It was like this since the beginning, so why change it?”. Yeah. Would you like the recent changes reverted? By your logic, they should have not changed them, because they were like this since the beginning/long time ago…
Such a silly “argument”.
In fact, why change anything at all?
Why eradicate smallpox? It was with us for 1000s of years, so why change it?
For most of human history, the life expectancy was 25-30 years, so why change it?
200 years ago, you had an almost 50% chance of dying before you turn 5 years old, these days it is extremely low. But hey, why change it, right?
It is not even a killstreak. You only need assists to get into a plane.
And what stops them from just strafing you?
Ooooor, just make a new mode without CAS. You can be happy, we can be happy.
Never heard of that, but you can get in one by time spent in battle. Still the big majority gets to use them by getting kills.
And how can we be happy in our SPAAs? CAS needs balance, not removal.
Because the current mode would not be removed. You still could play it in the mode with CAS.
That would divide the playerbase and strongly affect the queue times, Gaijin would never do that, for several reasons.
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BS.
This is kind of my experience playing bombers in tank AB. You have to fly around like a spastic squirrel or you’re instantly dead in the first 5s. And if you do take any fire your wing/tail falls off instantly. The tailgunners are utterly useless.
I think they can balance it out by giving bombers weaker payloads, but more hp. It gets a bit silly sometimes when I get a bomber with 10+ 1000lb bombs and I can literally just pepper the map and get 5+ kills.
You have no idea do you pal… “But if you think they’re going to…” Since when did i say anything about them changing it? Lol. It’s pure £££ like the vast majority of these types of games so no they arn’t gonna change jack. The thing is, it’s pronounced more in this game. So i’m glad you have been in since 2013, bit like myself with WOWS since Beta and to this day CV’s are still broken (I know, I was a CV player). But I have always admitted that so it’s such a shame that people in here simply can’t. But hey, keep on trucking and dropping those near unavoidable bombs. I’m sure it’s lead to a healthy game like it is now…Red
Welcome to the discussion, you seemed to have missed a lot on what other people think about the problem and their solutions to fix it. It comes from years of threads still in the old forum. There are all types of opinions, people that defend CAS, people that want tank only, people that want it to change or to be more balanced. Just don’t come here now and say that those that want to keep planes in Ground Battles simply don’t admit that it is broken. It’s broken even before they added helicopters to top tier or when they added jets with more than a hundred rockets, but it’s not as bad as when you could kamikaze on someone and kill that tank, it’s not as bad as when you could detonate bombs just by kamikaze near them, it’s not so bad as when bombs would stick to your tank, etc… For many players and especially for Gaijin, removing planes is not an option, so let’s try to find real solutions to ease the problem of balance between planes and tanks. Not just attack different opinions.
Probably half of my deaths come from bombers dropping bombs that I cannot hear, I get targetted by them in every match, still I think the game is better with planes, it gives targets to SPAAs, it gives you a way to defeat someone that has a tougher tank or is just better, it gives you something different in a tank match. Doesn’t mean that I think that having a B-29 dropping several 2000lb bombs on tanks and deleting half the enemy team is fine, same goes for helicopters with 16 ATMGs, capable of killing an entire team if they had the time, I think that certain payloads souldn’t be an option.
Even between planes many here think it’s broken, when you get interceptors spawning at gun’s reach or when bombers spawn just too far to be intercepted, we don’t like RNG deciding who will get the kill (or advantage).
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Eh,maybe you can just go to play WOT(:
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Return if you have an actual argument buddy!
The special place of WT is connact between air and land,ian’t it?(:
Nope. If that were true, i could spawn in an S-300 in Air match and shoot them down.
Also, you saying to “just play WoT bruv” is laughably stupid.
There is the same kind of cancer there too. The Arty. Same concept. To give trash players a tool that needs zero game knowladge to play, so they don’t have to learn to play, and still be able to do something.
Don’t be so serious bro, just for fun(:
