I think you need to accept that them climbing above you is a tactic, and isn’t breaking rules or ‘bad’…
This absurd rational of people to make all the relations to everything else to paint out the tactics in the game here as being bad, has to stop… Spawncamping is the consequence of you letting them climb and be established above you.
It’s a tactic from the get go.
You need to dive to evade them and be aware that they are there rather than just flying out oblivious.
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And then there are no bombers left, except where Bomber Bob now respawns. Guess where that is and where the interception course would lead the high fighter. And you know, Bomber Bobs keep respawning in (you might guess it too) bombers. So even your idealistic unintercepted high flyer is brought to your team’s spawn by the wrong actions of your team members. Once Bomber Bob is on his third bomber, said flier is above your spawn, just doing his job. Now Bomber Bob has run out of bombers but has plenty of foam on his mouth and spawns a fighter and climbs up to kill the high flyer, ideally prop-hanging about 600 m below him. Bomber Bob will now quickly circle through his remaining fighters, repeating this stunt while being oblivious to the chat, where Mr. 1% advises him to stop feeding the camper and dive to kill the remaining ground instead.
I have reported your posting as inappropriate. If you have no convincing arguments, don’t turn to ad hominems to prove your lack of reason.
Just because we don’t share your opinion, doesn’t make us the problem… If you can’t handle that opinion, then discussion isn’t really your thing, and that isn’t our fault.
Why do you need to look at my profile for, enlighten me as to why you need to see that to formulate an argument…
Mine is public. But as Mr. 1%, I am not as representative perhaps? I am just baffled that someone with the gift of vision can’t see your data, while even I can… Hmm?
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Still on the ad hominem trip.
What,you’re also gonna do the 🤓☝🏼 move and report that?not my fault,you guys decided to intervene in a discussion without the proper tools
EDIT:yep,you did that. When the fox can’t get the grapes,it says they’re sour.
Right, like for instance you have shown in the starting post: You represent the fox that can’t get the grapes (campers) and therefore claims they are sour (immoral). We are the ones telling you that they are not.
Self-projecting is hard here,last time i’ve seen this type of delusional take to settle something that is,indeed,not settled was on Reddit,so this should give you the idea of how heavy you’re making this conversation.
You’re not forced to keep answering to my post
And we’re not forced to agree with you, or support your want. That’s the beauty of actual discussion.
Keep it civil, stop trying to insult, or find reasons to attack based on outside factors.
My profile being hidden has nothing to do with anything, other than your inadequacies in ability to put up an argument, or respond appropriately.
The more that people follow the correct counter to air spawn campers, the more likely they are to survive. The more they climb to stall out, the more they will be got, and bail from the match.
You can evade them, you can dodge at the last second, you can fake a move, to make them have to over-commit, and you can do things about this, but you have to be aware, as does your team.
Honestly,i don’t need to if you hide up your forum profile for lord knows what reason. So yeah,have fun with that
And i repeat that again,diving is not a counter, it’s a consequence and it’s perfectly logical,but i guess i’m talking to the wind again
Plus,one of the planes i want to mention that is abused is the Ki-44-II Hei,which is one of the fastest at that BR and also has one of the tightest turn rates. Sooo this means that outrun it is near impossible,not even in a dive. But let me wait about the hyper simple solution given by the Lord and Gracious 1%
HeheHEHEHE maybe pitch down and dont try and fight campers once they are above your spawn
If you do dive, any good camper will not follow. What if someone spawns as they are diving to you? Then they have to reset position and waste time
Thing is WHY do you NEED to see my profile in the first place, it’s irrelevant…
It IS the counter, it’s been the counter for the entire time the game has been a thing, and you think it’s not right, but that’s not a reason to be all upset that people don’t share your belief…
I constantly dive from spawn and I don’t get hit, I call out to the rest of the team that they need to dive from the spawn campers and those who do survive… Those who climb to stall, die… It’s simple.
Again, evasion isn’t dismissed by their turn rate, as it’s not to do with that… They are diving at speed to come at you, and if you dodge them like a bull fighter, they’ll sacrifice that speed and energy to get out of your reach again, or they’ll climb to avoid engaging.
This absurdium throwout shows you are lacking in the terms of an argument here, and you just want to mock.
Again, we don’t need to share your want, or opinion, and we don’t need to change ours to suit yours. Keep being mad, it’s not my problem.
Mmmmh reality is different than this theory, trust me
Yes, because this playerbase is lazy and adopts something instead of asking for a change. It is quite literally why even nowadays people always (or most of the times) go to the left when taking off,it is engraved in everyone skull due to past events and even asking if,i don’t know, something can be done to change it results in people mocking him and saying “just go left”.
Just.
Like.
This.
Discussion.
You don’t want a solid solution by Gaijin because you don’t want to change habits
It is. it has one of the fastest turn rates and acceleration,and if it is going to hunt for you when you spawn in you literally don’t have the speed to evade it,and before saying “but” TRUST ME,IT HAPPENED. YOUR 1% HOPELESS LOGIC IS NOT TRANSLATED INTO THE REALITY OF THE GAME, SO REFRAIN FROM GIVING ME ANY MORE LESSONS OKAY? LEARN SOME HUMILITY
No, I just don’t get upset at being got as it’s part of the game… Same as awareness being key.
Learn to appreciate others before looking for reasons to be a twit…
Again, what does my profile being hidden stop you from doing?
I face the Ki 44 a lot because I frequent that BR range, but I hardly get pounced on because I follow the advice I’ve handed out.
‘Trust me, I don’t cry’…
(Edit - There is nothing wrong with what I have said.)
No + check my stats btw
It means that you’re hiding something,and i don’t discuss with people that are not clear
You joined the game last year,and Thunderskill just showed me that SUDDENLY your skill got a spike in a month or so.
Checking your stats real quick shows that you’re indeed a spawncamper. So i end my words for you here, otherwise i might get banned
This is just your excuse to avoid the points made… Nothing more.
Your ‘discussion’ is to berate and deride until they change their stance, which isn’t discussion.
Again, what would you find on my profile, that you hold so dear to the need to find out for ‘discussion’ to happen?