HeavyTanker writes every post like that. Never seen one of their threads where they weren’t overly annoyed about whatever they were discussing.
It’s a combination of bad dirt models, light maps and the modeling of the actual armor. The Hummel model itself is fine but it looks like it was assembled and painted yesterday which is the issue. For instance here is what happened to the Tiger II models. The new model is higher quality, but lacks the degradation of materials like the original. (not my photos for first 2)
Old
New
This is my image
Newer H model with zimmerit( 0% condition)
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Ah yes, 0% condition, AKA totally ragged out tank straight off the Front line: No scratches, dents or other belmishes, Just slightly more covered in dust.
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Im talking about General quality.
The Quality isn’t there anymore.
Tank’s used to have dents and scrapes modeled INTO them.
Now its just a boring bland overly shiny “Brand new” look.
If something like the Black Prince ever gets a remodel that removes all the damage, mud, and all that. Im 100% quitting the game.
The way that thing looks is one of the MAIN reasons i love it. Its beat up, its been abused and saw actual COMBAT.
HELL look at the new remodeled T-34s and IS’s, they are uglier, lost all their sauce, and are now Impossible to kill alot of the time due to dodgy armor modeling.
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The easy way to nuke IS-1 and IS-2 tanks now is just to shoot the 30mm roof plate. You only need like 45mm of pen to go through it and even shells with like 40grams of explosives wreck the turret crew.
Ok with the 2 Tiger pictures it’s easy to see the difference.
The texture and normals is the only issue here then, since the tank in the 2nd image could be retextured to look like the tank in the first image.
I’m surprised they couldnt/didnt keep the old deterioration, since we have the camo condition slider. 0% condition should look like the first picture, and 100% condition should look like the 2nd picture.
The new degradation look just makes the camo washed out like someone used sandpaper on the tank.
Can custom camos have their down degradation texture? Would be interesting to see if the old version with the rust & all could be brought back as a custom camo.
PS, The duality of the community: Im tired of every tank looking excessively worn out/rusty
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They can have a custom single state degraded state. You can’t really edit the degradation model without editing the physical model. I don’t know why they removed that rusted state on that camo for the Tiger II. All camos just overlay on the default mapping, with the regular unlockable camos having a transparent layer that allows the degradation model to show through. The other kind of camos just fully overlay and block the original. For instance on the Jadgtiger, this historical GE skin completely overrides the default degradation model and even applies fake zimmerit. This Zimmerit is just the equivalent of a decal, but does a good job of faking the 3d look thats on the new Tiger models.
Lines Camo 0% condition
Jadgtiger “301” Historical Skin 0% condition
To be fair i more just want tanks to sit somewhere in the middle, so the camo / decals can still be seen with maybe a slight layer of dirt and some dents i guess, But some tanks look like they were left outside for like 50 years, especially the oldest tanks.
I dont really like how crystal clean New vehicle camoflages and re-made vehicle camoflages are. But it is better it just stands out alot since most tanks in the game doesent look anywhere as neat as them…
It just makes both stand out like a sore thumb in opposite ways.
We need a middleground for just how roughed up a vehicle should be while not making it too worn out nor too clean. And i feel like most vehicles that are new look too polished but older models look too beat up.
The “Camouflage Condition” slider also isn’t a great solution since it effectively favors premium players by locking something that shouldn’t be a feature behind a paywall. (I play with premium so i know how much of a difference it is with vs without.)
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Why no one talks about how newest in-service Abrams’es are rusty. More rusty than T-34 from some babushkas shed… Nowadays million dollars military equipment like this is being treated with great care yet Gajin couldn’t resist making this look like trash unless you have premium account and paid camo.
Every single Abrams, even down to both of the XM1 prototypes have a lot of surface rust.
I just want to bring this up again, because the recent update is such a Mixed bag.
M7? Looks amazing, genuinely, Same for the Arjun, but some of the other additions just look so out of place.
I actually like the super clean and pristine tanks/planes. It means they haven’t gotten damaged (and I intend to keep them that way).
I like them looking like war torn beasts… apparently its an unpopular opinion
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Because many of us prefere a more fresh looking vehicle. IRL crews dont let the vehicles look like scrap. They would even get punished by that.
Whats the problem of a tank looking more fresh? My country operates the Centauro 2 since 2024 and i have seen them recently. They still look brand new… We already have mud and dust textures when you join a battle. I dont play vehicles that look like crap. Take a look in the 8.0 M60 or both M1 abrams or even some early soviet heavy tank. Some of them got new models because they was so ugly… i dont play vehicles that looks like they came from a scrap yard.
no one cares about this WT lore. Not even gaijin. Its just an excuse for the stock grind.
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Lore or not, there’s zero excuse for tanks, aircraft, boats or ships to be given ammunition that’s straight up worthless at tier or not given even basic countermeasures like chaff or flares.
Have you tried to kill an enemy battleship with HE, for example?
Not even that, I never found any source from their PR etc that said this. It seems to be a rumour back from when the game was in beta and not something that was actually pushed as lore. Besides, it would make no sense with the BR system, not to mention the historical maps.
If one really needs a headcanon for WT, go with “it’s a sports league that practices balance by performance, we’re all firing paintball rounds at each other in arena maps with arbitrary competition rules”. A mix between F1 and war games.
In any event, the question of war torn vs brand new should be up to the player with the cosmetic slider. The problem is simply that the slider doesn’t do much for many vehicles. Sometimes you turn it all the way up and the vehicle still looks rusty like it’s been exposed to the elements in a depot with no maintenance for months; and sometimes you turn it all the way down and the vehicle still looks showroom ready.
Not to mention, there is no slider for aircraft and some look crazily neglected with entire patches of paint peeled off (something that’s often missed in this discussion is that wear and tear from combat does not look identical to neglect. A bent fender is the former, a massive rust patch is the latter)
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Yeah, i have seen people complaning about vehicles being worn out or weathered as well
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STFU.
its a art stealing, plagiarizing, Planet ruining, drain on the Human experience that needs destroyed.
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Used to be a slider for this sort of thing too. That ‘weathering’ ((Condition)) on the camo/customization page.