Anyone else find it absolutely infuriating that the F-4E can't participate in the 'vietnam era' Nuclear Escalation?

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I haven’t played the F-4E in a little while and was excited to hear Nuclear Escalation was back in the 8.7-11.0BR ‘vietnam era’ range. To my surprise/frustration I find the F-4E has been shifted up to 11.3!!! battle rating over the years… WHAT?

So now my option for flying a Phantom for this game mode is the F-4C which gets zero countermeasures while you’re up a whole host of aircraft against you armed with R60M’s etc and Su-25s/A-10’s are flying around the map…

All they had to do was shift the BR range for Nuclear Escalation up by .3… there’s no way they didn’t see this…

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Yea I really want to play my Kurnass too, and it’s not like it’s gonna be op or something, 4 fox-1 missiles that the radar can’t kick anything when the enemy is low and 4 AIM-9 that are only rear aspect and they are easily get fooled by flares

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AIM-7E-2 slinger would slaughter everything

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It is actually 8.7-9.7 and 10.0-11.0

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Not really no, I mean kinda sad I can’t use my triple gunpod loadout but meh

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image Браво!

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you can use the F4ej

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dont forget the su-25BM with r73s:(

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How?

F-4E doesnt have PD radar, so anything flying low cant be engaged. This is precisely what happened the first time round with the fixed aircraft. You had Mig-23MLDs firing R-24Rs at F-4Es that could return fire with Aim-7E-2s.

The only thing that would be “slaughtered” would be the Mig-25s, because they couldnt operate in impunity at higher alts

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Also at least in the first run they gave AIM-9L, they should let the F-4E or ban SU-25BM, A-10, J-22, Hawk and any other advance plane

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Su-25BM with R-73s should be, because its the only thing with IRCCM.

But if you banned anything not “Vietnam Era” most nations would basically be DOA vs the Mig-21s.

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Not all just the most obvious, The J-22 with 100km missiles, The A-10 or remove the AIM-9L or just let the Phantom, The Mig-23M is 11.0 and the phantom is a little bit better but not enough, it can easily get in and at the same time allow the mig-27 too (I just want to larp with my Kurnass)

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Yeah, The BRs are a mess, and these hard brackets highlight it.

Really should have rolling brackets

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Rip the AJS37 having a sorta good area for once

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The Phantom wouldn’t change things, if you fly low you are safe as the radar will never lock you and it doesn’t have all aspect fox-2s and if you fly High the Soviets have the Mig-25 that defeats the F-4 in BVR most of the time and the Mig-23 with the R-23

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Nah if we start removing 9L the Viggen is just trash, it’s already mid and had a F-5 call me a slur because I hit him with a 9J saying I should’ve used guns as if I’m gonna use a gunpod on a mediocre platform with only 6 hard points. Seriously it loses the 9Ls it has nothing going for it for defense aside from 2 9Js

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It can keep it, just Gaijin let me larp with the Kurnass (and all the F-4E) in a Vietnam themed mode, because the F-4E absolutely suck at the previous run that was 11.3-12.0

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Honestly I want a group which is just 9.7-10.3 or 10.7

I had to stop using the Viggen since it’s has no purpose in the mod, same with the F-5A(G) Penguins basically always get shot down, and the F-35 has just been good for nuking trashy F-5E players or nuke jets who wanna dogfight with the strike fighter

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Yes and the 10.0 F-4C goes up against everything up to 11.0. That is my point.

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Sheer number of missiles

Eh, I don’t even really find that too troubling especially when migs like to go vertical and E-2s can be seemingly slinged at any speed and pulls like a R-73

In most aspects in a one on one the 23MLD is better, but when the fights get more drawn out and you already used your R-24s you might as well be a 23M (the last bit is a joke)