Another Brake of the game R-77 vs AIM-120 most failer update. Blalance missing

F15E did not put on as much weight as the SU34 did, it’s not really comparable

F15E got 1200kg heavier than the F15C, and one of them got the incredible 229 engines
SU34 got 6000kg heavier…

Its scan speed is gonna be comparable to mechanical radars, so no. But it’s TWS mode is gonna update quicker, likely in every scan

im about case of “strike aircraft”. not about weight comparsion and etc

welp, you have stated one thing
and later a bit opposite:

thats already faster

absulutly not. the meta is derby/darter and amraam

why does that matter?

Yes… With scan speed, I’m talking about how quick the radar “moves” back and forth on the UI, how quick it can scan the entire screen, it’s fast now but it’s gonna get slower and comparable to mechanical radars. However when a target has been acquired on TWS, it seems like it’s gonna get updates faster. In a practical sense I don’t think it’s going to matter all that much as the F15E is plenty fast enough already, the extra TWS speed is pretty negligible, but it is indeed quick, which I admitted. It’s TWS is not going to “scan” faster, but it’s going to update already acquired TWS targets in bars it’s not currently scanning to simulate IRL PESA

u cant talk about tge darter when its an exported derby.

idk, guy pointed not on weight, on “strike aircraft”.

if derby on same aircraft as amraam - maybe, F-16C Barak. But Derby alone - no

Right, well anyways. I think the SU34 radar might be the best in game for tracking a large amount of targets / situational awareness, however for BVR I still think the 29SMT or J10 radar beats it, due to 170° gimbal, being fast enough

welp, who knows, still better to wait for release version

derby alone - yes.
its good both on bvr and close ranges.

not really

yes

Maybe now, but when they got released and before the fixes,R-Darter and Derby couldnt hit anything cause they just overshot the traget. Which is when i wrote that

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1: I’m not expecting the Su-34’s flight model to survive to live. The Su-27 looked good on the dev server too and then gaijin hit it with the good ol’ Russian (negative) bias.
2: The Su-34 lacks an HMD, which in practice will reduce the speed that target locks can be acquired within ACM range and will dramatically limit the usefulness of its R-73s. These sub-20km ranges where the lack of HMD is most felt is the only range bracket where the R-77 feels like it can contemplate competing against other fox3s.

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prob just was overperforming a lot

The biggest question is why do USA aircraft get to over preform for years before being fixed?

A-10C is the latest example.
But I know the F-16’s slightly - somewhat over preform in flight model.

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Only reason why it is overperforming - gaijin doesnt inplement FLCS. Thats for all planes, not only F-16.

Got up with first BR changes, lol

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Barely. Still not enough. 12.0 is where it should be. Especially if the Su-25SM3 is 12.3

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LOL yeah the derby is the best!

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Same br than mig23ml with MAW, HDM, and 4 aim9m

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It out performs all other missiles*

*at long range.

The R77 is one of 3 misisles that can be launched 90 degrees off boresight at a target 3.5km away and has the capability to hit it while you are still in a notch position.

The AMRAAM cannot do this, and in the current meta means you can maintain offensive capability from a fully defensive position while the AMRAAM carrier is forced to either stay HOT to be offensive or disengage to be defensive.

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