That’s called having a different opinion. You can give arguments why you think that way, but eventually you will get to the bottom of this, where the questions become subjective.
Ad hominem and ad personam are 2 different things. You meant to say ad personam and I didn’t use it here.
It wasn’t a personal attack, I didn’t say he is always a whining and coping person and therefore he is wrong. I said that in my opinion the point he made that SU-27SM is garbage, while F-15C is an OP brain-off kill dispenser is not true and that it’s nothing more than whining and coping. Basically a mean way of saying I disagree.
He on the other said that I’m wrong, because I lack experience on the planes discussed here. This is ad personam. The other guy also said that I’m wrong, because I’m a bad player.
Everyone is entitled to basic level of respect. I’m not saying you should be calling me sir, be always kind and positive or something. Be mean, but don’t say that I should be ignored. That’s not that far from saying that I should be banned/muted for “always” having bad opinions.
Not you, you clearly didn’t read carefully.
69 kills, 62 deaths in air rb, 0 kills and 0 deaths in air sim (I bet 0 take offs too, I probably just spawned with it and changed my mind)
My main point is that even though they are overall worse than U.S. planes, they are still usable.
They used to be too strong, when R-27ER had no competition. It was simply hidden by multipathing. Now with new BR brackets in sim, R-27ER will dominate again, now with reduced multipathing. Thankfully at least planes with 6 of them aren’t 13.0, but the R-27ER appears as early as 12.7.
They still do have some things that are better though: HMS gimble limits, R-73’s thrust vectoring, G limits and seeker’s gimble limits, AOA and 1 circle performance, R-77’s mid to close range performance (speed, maneuverability), simply having a type of missile like R-27ET, simply having IRST, top speed on the deck, R-27ER’s kinematic performance.
He just said that SU-27SM is garbage and I just said that I disagree and he is just whining and coping. No arguments on both sides.
we can lead a horse to water, but we cant make it drink.
This is not a subjective topic. The Su-27SM is bad.
You quoted me, so I responded. You clearly didn’t state your target properly.
read the stat card wrong. with the way that plane works and where it was set, 69/62 isnt a great K/D either…
I havent even lost a 1 circle to a su-27 with a half fuel f-15c with wing tanks on…
i think the AIM-120 still does better there, iirc.
nobody uses this missile for a reason.
Worse radar, worse missiles, dogass flight performance, less flares than most, I mean come on dude. At this point, im not even surprised that the guy whos 69/62 with a supersonic seal clubber thinks that this plane somehow has “usable” flight performance.
amraam got an AoA nerf, wing area nerf, and guidance delay nerf (0.5s now). rn the r77 is better at mid to close range performance around 0-12km launch.
I do and many others as well. Its a stealth very long range missile.
Personally I feel the US should be best in game at medium/long range than most but still usable in close range, and for the most part this is true but the new changes really hurt the medium range capabilities.
bro i literally used them in a 1v1 bvr and AIM-120’s literally did everyhting better than R-77’s i used 6 and launched 1 every 5 km’s after getting to 40km’s lets just the score was
AIM-120’s-13
R-77’s-1
And look at the tag of the thread. Realistic battles. SIM is dead at top tier since Aim-9M, even more so after Aim-120A with how horrible SU-27SM radar is
I ask you to name ANY strength and you couldn’t give me an answer. Just give up, dude.
I wont even humor the rest of your response because you’re getting off topic and giving me technicalities instead of actually responding to my questions.
Ah yes, the mode where everyone is given limited visibility, also the mode this thread isn’t about, is the only time this missile is useful. Great point.