Another Brake of the game R-77 vs AIM-120 most failer update. Blalance missing

Yes you are.

It literally is.

I personally hate russian planes and would love to complain about anything being too strong in them. What strengths do they have over the opposition?

Because you bring no real logic or argument, you just talk about “coping” and “whining”

I literally did not say that, but go off. I said your opinion is ill-informed and you arent really making a valid point.

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R-73 İRCCM is 0.75* FoV. Same with magic 2.

R-27T/ET İRCCM FoV is 1.33, it’s bad

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I doubt it.

That’s called having a different opinion. You can give arguments why you think that way, but eventually you will get to the bottom of this, where the questions become subjective.

Ad hominem and ad personam are 2 different things. You meant to say ad personam and I didn’t use it here.

It wasn’t a personal attack, I didn’t say he is always a whining and coping person and therefore he is wrong. I said that in my opinion the point he made that SU-27SM is garbage, while F-15C is an OP brain-off kill dispenser is not true and that it’s nothing more than whining and coping. Basically a mean way of saying I disagree.

He on the other said that I’m wrong, because I lack experience on the planes discussed here. This is ad personam. The other guy also said that I’m wrong, because I’m a bad player.

Everyone is entitled to basic level of respect. I’m not saying you should be calling me sir, be always kind and positive or something. Be mean, but don’t say that I should be ignored. That’s not that far from saying that I should be banned/muted for “always” having bad opinions.

Not you, you clearly didn’t read carefully.

69 kills, 62 deaths in air rb, 0 kills and 0 deaths in air sim (I bet 0 take offs too, I probably just spawned with it and changed my mind)

My main point is that even though they are overall worse than U.S. planes, they are still usable.

They used to be too strong, when R-27ER had no competition. It was simply hidden by multipathing. Now with new BR brackets in sim, R-27ER will dominate again, now with reduced multipathing. Thankfully at least planes with 6 of them aren’t 13.0, but the R-27ER appears as early as 12.7.

They still do have some things that are better though: HMS gimble limits, R-73’s thrust vectoring, G limits and seeker’s gimble limits, AOA and 1 circle performance, R-77’s mid to close range performance (speed, maneuverability), simply having a type of missile like R-27ET, simply having IRST, top speed on the deck, R-27ER’s kinematic performance.

He just said that SU-27SM is garbage and I just said that I disagree and he is just whining and coping. No arguments on both sides.

It wasn’t mandatory to survive, after R-27ER came out it became mandatory.

we can lead a horse to water, but we cant make it drink.

This is not a subjective topic. The Su-27SM is bad.

You quoted me, so I responded. You clearly didn’t state your target properly.

read the stat card wrong. with the way that plane works and where it was set, 69/62 isnt a great K/D either…

I havent even lost a 1 circle to a su-27 with a half fuel f-15c with wing tanks on…

i think the AIM-120 still does better there, iirc.

nobody uses this missile for a reason.

Worse radar, worse missiles, dogass flight performance, less flares than most, I mean come on dude. At this point, im not even surprised that the guy whos 69/62 with a supersonic seal clubber thinks that this plane somehow has “usable” flight performance.

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I find that from rear aspect at closer than 5km theybare unflareable.

They are very good to hit chasing targets directly above or below you.

It is unfortunate that the max seeker lock range for them is only 11km when it should be able to track from much longer distances.

amraam got an AoA nerf, wing area nerf, and guidance delay nerf (0.5s now). rn the r77 is better at mid to close range performance around 0-12km launch.

I do and many others as well. Its a stealth very long range missile.

One that still isn’t very good. I doubt it nets you any kills often.

It does net me kills. Its also good at killing people who only use chaff at range. Also IRCCM.

Its still not very effective.

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How so?

Gj can’t let US have good news stuff, and.this change also hurts other nations, but not as much since most have alternatives

The amraam is still the best fox 3 at range (although not by much), and most would consider it top 3 even with the big maneuverability nerfs.

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Personally I feel the US should be best in game at medium/long range than most but still usable in close range, and for the most part this is true but the new changes really hurt the medium range capabilities.

This is a blatant lie. At least in sim.

I know, I just corrected you.

The first time I quoted you was a response, the second time was showing an example.

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Ad personam again.

It’s worse, not bad.

It was extremely needed to survive, that’s why we did it.

You climbed, you got a AIM-7 to the face.

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bro i literally used them in a 1v1 bvr and AIM-120’s literally did everyhting better than R-77’s i used 6 and launched 1 every 5 km’s after getting to 40km’s lets just the score was
AIM-120’s-13
R-77’s-1

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And look at the tag of the thread. Realistic battles. SIM is dead at top tier since Aim-9M, even more so after Aim-120A with how horrible SU-27SM radar is

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IDK about that one, dude. The R-27ER was LEAGUES better than the AIM-7 ever was.

I ask you to name ANY strength and you couldn’t give me an answer. Just give up, dude.

I wont even humor the rest of your response because you’re getting off topic and giving me technicalities instead of actually responding to my questions.

Ah yes, the mode where everyone is given limited visibility, also the mode this thread isn’t about, is the only time this missile is useful. Great point.

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