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And we wonder why this game’s balance is screwed up.
Yes I can agree it has an better Radar and 2x the CM’s and also a slightly better engine, but the difference isn’t that big enough to bring it down to 12.3. Maybe the german one can go to 13.0. It already in a great position for it BR compared to other planes in its BR. Lowering it down will only cause more problems.
not sure why youre siding with OP here. Tbh i dont see why any rational person would side with anyone thats been arguing.
Me watching the Aussies get another TT jet, well, my next RCAF aircraft is added as a premium or more likely, it’s being added as a premium under one of its other operators.
(I am still frustrated that the Aussies now have 3 TT Hornets, and the only Canadian one is premium.)
Hey! That’s one of the better parts of the English version. We used to be taught that it was part of a set of lyrics (that is now changed iirc) that talked about the soldiers from the World Wars iirc.
But now it describes the current events technically, thinking about it.
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German hornet radar:
US hornet radar:
what’s the difference between them?
The Swiss one has 20km more range and can track more targets in TWS.
How does this affect you?
Realistically, not at all. Spawns are circa. 70km away from each other in RB maps, so extra range is useless regardless of what missiles you have.
Extra TWS targets? The US one has 10, you can see practically the entire team with that anyways.
That is as long as they are all within your scan area, which happens only if they spawn on the airfield.
Flight performance?
If I’m understanding this correctly, the US one is actually performing better than the Swiss one in instant turn and rate at most speeds.
@MCNasTY_1998-psn the literal only part where the Swiss hornet is realistically better is due to extra countermeasures, which isn’t an issue for someone who has a single clue on how to play the aircraft
if you want to complain about countermeasure count, go look at the MiG-29N, at 13.3 with 60 medium caliber countermeasures, one of the worst 4th gen airframes and SPO-15, which doesn’t even tell you if the thing engaging you is a Fox-3 or Fox-1.
Or the J-15T, at 14.7 with just 48 countermeasures which players have been trying to get buffed since the first dev server, guess what happened? Nothing, because there is no proof that it has more countermeasures.
Finally, if you want the US hornet to get buffs, go find sources that prove what you want.
Without sources, gaijin isn’t doing jack shit.
The bug reporting forum is free for everyone to use.
I suggest reading up on the forum’s rules too:
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Yes, because it was borned to be built better?
I reckon I explained well about why.
F/A-18C (Swiss) is better than F/A-18C Early (USN), but your take is in exaggration level.
If you want to upgrade, you need to find a technical document instead of stabbing random guys in a forum with insults…
If you dig the internet and find a proper document which can support your option, probably the majority of guys here will support that.
BECAUSE GAIJIN ONLY READ TECHNICAL DOCUMENTS.
Take without any evidence is null and void to Gaijin.
It is plausible to upgrade USN F/A-18C Early in same level of Swiss F/A-18C, but you need documents for that.
Isn’t this simple to understand…?
Both Historical Accuracy and Game Balance are improtant, but
Historical Accuracy over Game Balance.
If I were your drill sergeant, you probably would have ended up facing to the wall /j.
I reckon we need to agree to disagree about this part, since it will open a whole can of worms, as you told.
THEN PROVE IT WITH SOLID PROOF. THAT IS HOW THINGS WORK.
1- I don’t side with OP. I don’t see any rational person would misconcept this.
2- This sounds like bothsidesism, and won’t help with the discussion itself.
Google it. I’m still looking for a “trusted” source, but it’s pretty cut and clear.
Then create a post about it and I’d even support that. But right now that’s not my concern. My concern is about the f18. I’ve already said all that needed to be said and while it’s so easy to ask for more and more and more, what I’ve said is sufficient and factual. I don’t care how many of you there are, when you’re wrong, it doesn’t matter how many people believe it, you’re still wrong. It just means more people are wrong. I won’t be telling you you people any more because all of you have proven to not be worth my time or energy.
I’m right, and I don’t need anyone’s affirmation to be right. I just am.
Clearly you don’t understand what’s actually important in a radar…
Honestly I don’t really care about your opinion. Take a seat
I’m done responding, consider this conversation over. I’m right, you’re all wrong, if you don’t like it then please by all means, feel butthurt. I don’t care how you feel.
^The right AN/APG-73 radar is for the Swiss F/A-18C Late at 14.0 btw, so it has HMD and HMS.
This is pulled from the game files, their stats are virtually identical
@MCNasTY_1998-psn
My source:
This sheet was made by a known dataminer, safe to say what they’ve posted is trustworthy. You can contact them through the sheet if you’re really curious
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and he disagrees with yours. Point?
Isn’t that the whole reason this thread exists?
Can’t follow you there chief
Likewise.
C early/CF188A stays 12.7
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So looking into it, the the F/A-18Cs entered service in 1987, the F404-GE-402 engines in began being installed in 1992 and the APG-73 radars started being installed in new production aircraft in 1994, I cant find anything about countermeasures.
So the (early) seems to have the correct radar/ engines for the first F/A-18Cs to enter service
Switzerland received their first hornets in 1996 well after these upgrades.
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hell yeah a mod removed the duplicated post!
@Hylian_Knights srry for calling, but u’re the best moderator.
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Your stats are nowhere near close for you to talk like this.
You might as well be NPC.
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Yup. I looked at their code in the data mine github.
Same thing.
If you change the 6 missiles for 4 AIM-7F/M with 2 9L maybe, if not keep dreaming
Love the amount of grandstanding in here missing out on the fact that there is more of a disparity beyond just the radar range and countermeasures of these two planes.
Please just omit that the Swiss hornet gets EGBUs, or that it has 1440 KGF more thrust.
And yes, I do think the CF-188A also should be tweaked just like the US hornet, no its not asymmetry, its just selling worse aircraft in other trees.