And that adds what to the conversation? You wanna act like a clown, then get treated like a clown and don’t be a panzy about it.
American f18 is in the same br but doesn’t have the cm or radar as the German equivalent. These are facts. If you would like to argue against the facts then you are an insignificant, blundering, fool.
So I suggest unless you would like to be useful, you sit down and learn your place
Look, it’s really not my job to keep people up to date on the conversation. If you choose to be a participant, then it is your responsibility to read through the conversation thoroughly to understand currently where we’re at. If not, then simply don’t participate. I couldn’t care less who’s on my side. I’m right, and it doesn’t really matter what others think about it. It’s really just that simple
Only a slight difference between these 2 aircraft; it isn’t going to make a big difference. Yes the US one is slightly worse but it not that awful that it has to go down to 12.3. It still in it perfect BR 12.7 and I see no problem within it.
For example, AN/APG-59 of F-4J(USN) and AN/APG-59U of F-4J(UK) Phantom F.3, AN/APG-60 of F-4K/M Phantom FG.1/FGR.2 has different names but have the same role.
Early PD radar which fires sparrow.
Yes, AN/APG-73 of Swiss F/A-18C could be better than AN/APG-65 of American F/A-18C or British CF-188A in paper.
but both shares same role, AIM-7P slinger in 12.7BR.
Dude, really? I suggested that it gets renamed to f18c hornet same as the German f18. The only difference being the radar and the cm’s. The airframe to my knowledge does not actually change whatsoever. That being said it would be a fair change and would solve the problem of “unhistorical modifications”. Then they would be equal.
And as for the Canadian f18, I see no problem why that couldn’t have the same thing done to it.
It’s pretty simple and straightforward, and any argument against this change would be null and void.
The tracking one the f18 Swiss is better. It holds locks better against ground clutter.
Read the conversation before commenting
Why don’t you just pull out the important point? I ain’t gonna read the entire thread of insults breaking quite a few rules in the fourm.
As nice as the extra CM would be it really isn’t that necessary. Rarely have I ever felt the need for more when playing mine and I have 300 battles in it. I find the plane quite enjoyable to play. I have more issues with sparrows being sparrows than I do the radar. Same goes for the Swiss variant which I also have. Thankfully since they’re 7P’s with DL. You can just relock.
Cool, then don’t participate.
You need to think about the chance that you can be wrong.
If some other random guy can be wrong, you also can be wrong, it is really just that simple.
1- F/A-18C (Swiss) Also has another difference,
It is basically F/A-18C Late without AIM-120 and AIM-9M. Because Gaijin wanted to give a German F/A-18C Early(USN) equivalent for selling a fancy premium jet to Germans too.
F/A-18C (Swiss) has a better, Later engine(F404-GE-402) than F/A-18C Early/CF-188A(F404-GE-400) which becomes meaningless and compensated in most part thanks to heavier fuselage (500kg/0.5 Tonne heavier)
You said “Airframe to my knowledge does not actually change whatsoever” so I am clarifying it just for you.
That is why F/A-18C (Swiss) has 60 extra countermeasures and better AN/APG-73 Radar. because it is bascially a C&P version of F/A-18C Late with artificially nerfed loadouts.
2- It can solve-ish the “unhistorical modifications” problem on USN jets, but cannot solve the problem about Canadian parts. Oh well, if you find documents, submit them to dev as bugreport. I won’t mind for change on USN jet itself if you have proper documentation.
For Canadian CF-188A, I see problem why that couldn’t have the same thing done to it.
CF-188A is the Canadian version of F/A-18, based on F/A-18A, modified at the same level as F/A-18C.
If we change names, AFAIK, getting better radar would be fine, but changing the engine isn’t fine since it isn’t F/A-18C.
We need to solve this problem with decompression, not buffing F/A-18C or CF-188A directly.
Well… Just saying, thank you for finally notifying the Canadian Hornet. /j
No, it is neither simple nor straightforward, and any argument against this change wouldn’t be null and void.
Because you didn’t submit any kind of technical documents to prove those…
No shit, Sherlock…
because AN/APG-73 is an upgraded version of AN/APG-65…
You gotta have tolerance here mate. So take a break then come back.
It is if you’re changing your argument or point in the middle of it while someone’s offline.
You can’t change your argument and then hours later expect people who didn’t see you change it to notice immediately.
You have to let them know clearly what happened, you can ping multiple people in a single message, you can quote it, literally anything other than being an aggressive douchebag.
Edit: This should be common knowledge I think.
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We’d need to change it from the 90s version we have in-game to the IMP I upgrade from the early 2000s for any changes, but that was an upgrade for it to be able to use AIM-120s, so…
Because, as far as I have seen, the only real problem the CF-188 has is the issues with the liveries. (and it was another modern Canadian vehicle sold for $100+ dollors and can’t even be in the same lineup as the other thing)
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So make it overpowered? More than it arguably already is?
So make it INSANELY overpowered? More than it already is? What are you going to take from it? Things it absolutely had IRL?
No, sorry, you are wrong. There are minor differences but nothing to cause gameplay outcomes to change.
Does the f18 from Germany have a better radar and more cm’s than the American one while finding itself at the same br? The answer is yes. See the difference is that I’m not unsure about it, I know I’m right. The facts speak for themselves.
Is it different? Yes
Is that difference significant enough to result in br changes?
Definitely not
You might as well compare the premium flankers.
One has PL-12s as well as R-77s, the other one only has R-77s
Surely that warrants a change in br between the two?
Hint:
Spoiler
it doesn’t
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Game balance over historical accuracy seems to come up a lot. Or do you disagree, cause that opens a whole can of worms.
Yes, yes it is.
Exactly why the American f18 should be renamed and refitted with the anapg73 and more cm’s. You may not realize, but you just agreed with me.
How important is the extra TWS target tracks on a SARH platform? I think aside from along with the extra memory for more tracking targets, most of the APG-73 upgrades where for reliability and maintenance, not something that affects gameplay.
other than that the Swiss Hornet has 720kgf more thrust, but weighs 540kg more negating most of that, and the extra 60CM, not really grounds for different BRs with the current compression.
R-77s are worse so MK2 should be 13.0 obviously.
(joking)
Do you have proof that it has this irl?
Simple question, yes or no