Awo eveyone !
I know that some players want to have “historically accurate” Br but that’s just stupid and lame.
What I do want to know, however, is your opinion on “technologies” based BR.
For example, should a full-stab tank fight a non-stab tank ?
Should planes that don’t have flares fight against fox 1 ?
One of my friends recently got to high BR and he didn’t know how to react when people smashed him with their full stab APFSDS and he was playing with his stock AMX-30.
I don’t disagree about that when we gets massive decompression but, if they implement that, some aircraft should be equipped with all historically available loadouts.
These lists continue further.
You just need a different playstyle. But some tanks like the TURM III and the AMX-13 HOT being the same BR while one is fully stabilised while the other is one of the wobliest tanks in game is just mad. Or the Object 906 and char 25t.
The earliest fox1 are so useless you can accidentally evade them so that is not really an issue. Flareless planes should just be balanced in such a way that more powerful IR missiles are high enough they don’t face them
Depends on what you have.
Something like PT-76B fighting only stabilized tanks would make the vehicle completely atrocious.
8.7 AMXs fighting only unstabilized tanks would make them the best.
You really need to elaborate further on how would you solve these issues.
Gaijin coulpe of years ago said no. I think it was back when road map was posted or even bofore that.
I’m completely fine with all vehicles having their historically accurate loadout AS LONG AS IT’S BALANCED !
Cas is already broken now, why can’t Gaijin just let all the stuff but change the quantities ?
Cause having 16 spice 250 on the last grippen is a joke
I’ll explain to my friend lol
But yeah the Turm 3 is already a joke…
I just wish the max BR would be 20.0 and we could get a massive decompression
Yes. Example, T58 vs any stabilised autocannon is an obvious win for the T58 despite being unstabilised.
Why would flares help against Fox 1s?
I assume you mean Chaff/Countermeasures in general. Most early radar missiles can be fooled simply by changing direction briefly, spinning or simply pulling more than the missile can handle.
Now lets assume you mean Fox 2s (IR seeking), early Fox 2s can also be evaded just by moving and many flareless jets have rockets that they can use as makeshift flares. The T-2 and F-1 are 9.7/10.0 respectively and both are monsters, despite being at the same BR as the AV-8A/C/S with 240cm.
Turm 3 at the same BR than the UDES 33 should explain my point
Its almost like you could solve these issues by making battle ratings that depend on how good the vehicle is! Wait a minute…
Turm 3 is just under br’d honestly. Simply moving it up would solve the issue rather than a whole new system that would have plenty of exceptions or balance issues.
That’s cool, the thread is tagged for ground and you’re spouting off a list of jets.
OP mentioned about this and that’s why I listed jets
Fair enough.
It’s a silly topic, imo. A tank can have a stabilizer - that’s cool. But the BRs already account for this. If a tank has a stabilizer at a BR when many don’t, it’s most likely that it suffers other issues such as low damage output, low survivability, and so on.
The better discussion around this is having different BRs for stock vs spaded, but then you have to ask whether that is open for abuse with people purposely taking mods off to be at a certain BR even when spaded.
The T58 is also a problem on it’s own you know ._.
I’m not trying to push any narative but having the vidar at 8.0 (gen 2 thermal, autoloader) while having the AMX-30 Acra at 8.3 is insane
BMP-2 at 8.7 enters the chat
I mean if you were to take off mods than you would not be spaded anymore.
There is no difference between a stock vehicke and a spaded vehicle with all the mods removed.
What about it? numerous SPAA that can delete BMP2 in seconds enters the chat Better examples would be something like the Vidar at 8.0. I’m not saying the BRs for every vehicle is perfect, and it’s always a work in progress. But for the most part, vehicles have BRs that account for every technology available on the vehicle. So yeah, the PT-76 is stab’d, but its at that BR for a reason.