^The strategy in that case is “unless I have 1000000000m of alt on the enemy I run to my airfield where he can’t engage me or is certain to die right after killing me”.
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Local man doesn’t like winning on his own merits and wants the game played for him
Most likely because you’re one of, if not the last one left and they’re 100% coming for you because they want a kill
Also airfield AA is still broken lol, so they’ll be shot down at 2-3km.
- use a mouse this isn’t Simulator, Air RB is designed around mouse aim;
- whatever input you’re using doesn’t make your plane worse, two exact same planes will turn the same regardless of being on mouse or joystick, they will only differ when you turn off the Instructor which inherently means you can’t use mouse aim - this will make your plane significantly better at turning if you have the skills to do it;
- massive skill issue if you’re getting outturned by a Hampden LMAOOOOO.
Yes, and throw away all my altitude and speed to attack ground targets so the airfield camper can use his massive crutches to get every possible advantage.
No, stop camping and have an actual fight. If you brought the wrong plane that’s on you, land and J out or PLAY. THE. GAME.
Stop camping then. if you can’t play without massive crutches, then I’m just gonna hover somewhere you can’t see me until you leave, and then it definitely won’t be a fair fight.
By the way I just took a look at your stats, and for someone talking in a derogatory manner about “you mouse aimers”, you have some truly horrid stats to back it up.
I mean, over 500 games in a plane as good as the A6M2, yet you only have ~450 kills? With a K/D of 2:1? Same with the P-39N, about half as many games yet in a plane that belongs a full BR higher you’re still only getting 2:1.
Before you complain, actually learn to play the game.
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I really have no idea why this dude doesn’t play SBEC even he has joystick and complain about ARB that is basically full of keyboard/mouse or gamepad players.
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And he will always stop replying when someone points out that a lot of planes will in fact turn better with the instructor disabled.
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That was what happend to me in old forum.
https://old-forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/375012-airfield-aaa-discussion-thread/&do=findComment&comment=9601531
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It is ill-informed mouse aimers that are toxic towards us.
“feel superior”? lol. You just don’t have a clue do you.
I have news for you - I am also a pad player.
Most of you guys have never seen the other side of things and are happy with your “full deflection” mouse and KB aim, so you just go on hear-say.
Turn better? Sometimes, yes. A lot of the time, no. GO TRY IT! It’s a complete myth. Of course, you never point out the vast advantages you lot have over us. There’s no point in arguing with you because you don’ t like it pointed out to you.
There - I replied.
Oh and I started as a mouse aimer. It’s a sterile method of control. I didn’t come here to fly UFOs - maybe you did. But back to the point. Airfield flak is a haven for bombers, joystick (and pad) users and beginners learning the ropes. There’s more to this game than just killing.
Do you ever notice how you lot tend to go for people you think are easy targets first (i.e. look for the joypad sign)? Yep - they are in the same boat as us sadly. Often you will see a joypad iconed player in a far superior aircraft lose to one that is flying a much inferior aircraft. Does that tell you something? Okay, this only means they are using a console account and they may be flying with a mouse, but there’s also a high chance they are not.
Just admit you guys have it much much easier and move on. And don’t try to make it even easier for yourselves. Alternatively, plug a pad or stick in and fly with a control scheme something more akin to the real thing. It’s actually much more enjoyable to do so (if unfair). If I only had the choice of the mouse +KB I’d have dropped WT ages ago.
Oh and it’s certainly not a crime to have a different point of view to the norm either. You will learn that in life. I am not a sheep.
Truly horrid stats? Hello! Joystick user here mr toxic replier.
Btw - I’ve been here since 2013. Nearly all of it on joystick/pad. What you say kind of proves my point doesn’t it. Yet you don’t see it. Just be happy with the plaudits you get for this post from other mouse aimers. Learn to play the game properly? How toxic is that!
I’ll let you into a little secret here. Mouse aim was initially supposed to be only a training control method. Look into WTs past and try to deny that.
And whilst they allow me to fly non-mouse in RB (which was initially a JOYSTICK player dominated mode) then I will do so thanks very much (like many others). Your majority isn’t as big as you think.
Finally - airfield flak = please buff so the game isn’t ruined by enemy base campers praying on vulnerable returning damaged aircraft (especially bombers).
There are two airfield campers.
The aggressor & defender.
Poor AA protection causes more defensive camping due to it causing more aggressor camping.
Stronger airfield anti air causes less airfield campers.
You know - my view has always been this: if there’s a single bomber circling his airfield and he’s winning on tickets then hes perfectly entitled to do so. His team worked hard for that. Whether you like it or not it’s part of the game. Does Generation Z have so much of an attention deficit?! Either the other team should work out a way to get him (usually pounce on him all at once) or ground pound. There’s always a way, and it makes the game more interesting when working as a team like this.
The only time it is fruitless to camp is if you’re way behind on tickets. You may as well just land and J. Sadly there are plenty of players who will report you for Passive Behaviour if you circle your airfield; this reeks of impatience or the lack of a co-ordinated plan to win as a team. I’ve seen what poor AF flak does to games and it isn’t pretty. In fact, it makes the game plane boring.
Actually the only Passive Behaviour that should be punished is being AFK, but Gaijin doesn’t distinguish.
There is a whole entire game mode where you can play with your joystick and not be at a disadvantage.
Mouse aim players aren’t toxic towards joystick users because they use a joystick; it’s because that most of the self proclaimed joystick users completely fail at engaging any player that isn’t practically stalling out, and then when they do get tailed they preemptively run to their airfield to time the game out while being verbally abusive in chat.
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Interesting? So you think it’s generally only joystick players that are abusive?! I beg to differ. Because we can’t do the fancy stuff that you lads can do we have to play rather more conservatively, and are more often than not lambasted for doing so. If I can win on tickets and I’m the last player on my team I WILL NOT come away from the airfield and take on multiple mouse aimers who try to get me into a head-on with their lazer guns. Remember that if you are the last man and you have at least 2 on the other team, they can see what sector you are in.
And there is an entire mode where you can play and not be at a disadvantage. It’s called AB.
You constantly flame people in all chat because they kill you using mouse aim.
I have seen you flame people while camping your AA while you had a ticket deficit. You were not going to win but you just used game mechanic to waste other players time while taunting them from safe zone.
I think it is pretty telling that you practically refuse to play sim. Heck I only started playing it this year and I already have spent more time fully controlling my plane using a joystick than you have. My guess if it came down to a 1 v 1 in full real controls you would not have a chance on spite of all your “experience”.
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Do I? when was this? I’ll certainly remember to flame you next time I see you.
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Can’t say I’ve NEVER done that but it doesn’t make much sense, depends if someone is being arsey I suppose. I will give as good as I get though.
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Have you seen my stats? I’ve played a fair amount of sim. I just happen to like the RB mode more.
But then you’re way off topic with these attacks. And… there we go with the mouse aimer pretending to be a joystick player. So predictable. If you really were then you’d know the issues. But I guess you haven’t devoted enough time to the game.
Since you haven’t been here long, you may not have realised that way back there was a time where there WAS some control equality (i.e. it was bearable). Some time after 1.23 mouse aimers were given “extra manoeuvrability” which totally changed things. This is why most of ‘my kind’ see benefit in airfield flak. It gives us some respite. It’s okay for you, your mouse and instructor though.
Stop trying to draw this thread off-topic and contribute something useful rather than trolling.
What extra maneuverability? It’s well known that full real controls have more maneuverability than mouse aim.
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Screenshots of your toxic behavior come up in discord from time to time.
I literally watched a replay where you did just that. You camped airfield while having massive ticket deficit. You let Base AA whittle down a 4 to 1 advantage for you and even refused to engage the last guy the second he pointed his plane towards you even though you had a massive altitude advantage at that point.
You have barely any experience in Sim.
My sim stats
Your sim stats
I have killed 32x more players in sim than you have. In fact that majority of your sim kills are named bots and are not even player controlled. I kill twice as many players in sim per month than you do in Air RB. But please do go on about how I only pretend to know how to use a joystick.
Mouse aim does not have extra maneuverability. If you had watched the video I posted or listened to anyone else that actually has experience with both control types you would realize that you are wrong.
But I suspect that you know that you are wrong but just want some cheap excuse to continue to immediately run to your airfield rather than face any potential player on anything resembling equal terms.
PS if you think I don’t play on joystick we can always duel.
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Turn better? Sometimes, yes. A lot of the time, no. GO TRY IT! It’s a complete myth. Of course, you never point out the vast advantages you lot have over us. There’s no point in arguing with you because you don’ t like it pointed out to you.
It takes like one minute to get something like a 109 into test flight with WTRTI and compare turn rates with and without an instructor.
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Yes, you have truly horrid stats, ESPECIALLY for someone playing this game since 2013. That’s just an objective statement.
I don’t care about WT’s past, I care about the now and here. Mouse aim is the default for arcade and realistic. I use a flight stick in Sim, some people prefer mouse joystick. Vast majority of RB players use mouse aim, again don’t care about what the situation was 10 years ago, and I’m very certain that unless we start counting console players as willingly using an inferior control scheme, the amount of joystick users in RB is negligible.
Airfields are already too strong, anyone within 3km of one just dies. By the way, I figured out why you have so many games, but relatively few kills and deaths. You just camp the airfield because playing the game fairly is hard, then you’re gonna wait until they go attack ground targets, you get every possible advantage and if my guesses are right, sometimes you’ll fuck up and die despite again, having every possible advantage.
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That is literally what “passive behavior” is. You’re not actively playing the game, you’re just waiting for someone to get close so you can do a 180 and run straight back into AAA range.
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