I listed 3 just in the post you’ve already read. There are plenty more.
Yes. They were the BEST at their BR for handling the uptiers. The other aircraft did WORSE.
Except you do NOT agree to moving them up NOW which fixes early rank 5 compression. You want them to keep compressing rank 5 until THEIR issues are fixed in UPTIERS disregarding every other nation or plane’s problems.
SO yes, the ENTIRE 7.0-9.0 bracket should drop br by 0.3? because if you drop aircraft like the venom down, guess what happens to early rank 5 even worse than its already happening?
It is VERY OBVIOUS what my solution is without me saying it. GLOBAL decompression. This DOES involve STARTING with the MOST OBVIOUS cases of compression such as the MiGs and F-86s sitting UNDERTIERED relative to their DIRECT PEERS such as the Venom, G.91, Swift, etc.
These are just the example from the OLD META (4-5 years ago) and only from ONE BR (8.7) that excludes more recently added jets. All of these were left at 8.7 despite the MiG-15bis and F-86F-25 types going down which were just better jets.
If it was up to me id take every vic that is cope and re work load outs - making many actually worse on paper but actually fun.
Mig29- 12.7 remove sahr and put at 12.0/ 12.3
Jag 9.7- give 9Bs and reduce to 9.0.as thats what the dead FM dictates etc etc.
Power creep has gotten out of control and is making the game stale. New EF and friends at 14.3 says we are screwed as “wait times something something variety”
Yes, let us fix one section just to make another worse. So true. What am i saying.
No, at the time of these planes being 9.0, the CL13a, F2, 17,F1 were 9.0 lol. I dont remember any others. The rest were 9.3 i think. Like the Cl13b or maybe F40.
The .50 ones like F25 and 35 were moved down a while before i think.
The best because they were the best 9.0s at the time. Shocking. Can you believe the best 9.0 at the time was also the best 9.0 in the 10.0 game?
Woah, no way, were back to classic compression issues!
Yeah, the 15 and 25 shouldnt have gone down. I never opposed move them back to 8.7. I actually think they SHOULD be 8.7.
No, i dont, because i think rank 5 & 6 should broadly be fixed in one change.
Gaijin takes forever to change BRs. All the OP change for these 3 does is move the problem somewhere else. Which i simply dont want.
IF you were to move the 17/F1/F2 back to 9.0, you should ALSO change the 9.7-10.3(probably more like 9.0-11.3) bracket too.
Which broadly solves some under tiered planes across rank 5-6. And also allows you to move some other planes up that are too low additionally.
It objectively does more good than bad to fix the F-86 and MiGs BRs. It would make the entire rank 5 section of the game more playable while only making 2 jets lifes worse. You would have to do this ANYWAY to decompress. Why are you against downtiering the peers of these jets but also against uptiering these jets back to where they belong?
Don’t know what you’re even referring to. I specified 8.7 Battle rating. I specified that in that specific comparison I was talking about the MiG-15bis and F-86F-25 type planes. Nobody brought up 9.0. Every jet I posted was a 8.7 and still are when these MiGs and F-86s were downtiered. Only The MiG-17 and F-86F-2 were ever 9.0 in the context of what I am currently talking about. The Hunter F1 only recently dropped to 8.7 from 9.0. The CL13B and F-86F-40 were 9.3 at the time.
You are not reading what I am saying.
What does have to do with all of the above jets I posted not being moved down ALONGSIDE the MiG and F-86s? I am comparing 8.7s to 8.7s and 9.0s to 9.0s and you’re complaining about 10.0s.
Nothing to do with compression directly. Read SLOWLY and CAREFULLY. The MiG-15/17 and F-86A/F were and are better than their direct peers at their old BRs. Only THEY (The MiG/F-86s) were downtiered despite the WORSE planes (Such as the venom, G.91, swift, FJ-4B, etc listed above) NOT being downtiered.
You have quite literally said you oppose it here:
The MiGs and F-86s are DOUBLE COMPRESSED. That is what you are apparently incapable of understanding. They are LOWER than their CURRENT PEERS. The jets they are MOST COMPARABLE TO exist at a HIGHER BR.
Not necessary. The 17/F1/F2 are all undertiered relative to their DIRECT, read: DIRECT PEERS such as the vehicles I posted above.
Ive read it quite a lot.
It just does not make sense to me why youd sacrifice one BR just to make another playable.
IF you fixed 9-11.3 you COULD then move the 8-9.0s around much more cleanly. THATS what i want.
I dont want to make any other br bracket suffer for the sake of another br.
I’d sacrifice two planes to make dozens of planes that are their peers more playable as well as make the planes that are being compressed by them playable again
Is that why you’re saying the MiG and F-86 can’t be uptiered back to where they belong with their peers? Very deeply hypocritical and/or ironic
