Air RB and its possible rework

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Gaijin manages to demotivate and make the community angry every time, nobody succeeds like them. But is it possible that after 12 years, and all the money that has been given to him, cannot rework a mode that is now stale, and aged very badly?
The game is becoming boring and repetitive, I even stopped playing Arb and I went to the SIM to find some fun. Arb’s reworking should not be an unknown, but something necessary and inevitable for the longevity of this game, above all if it is the community that requests Gaijin should seriously consider inserting it, and give players what they want.

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I think i’ve already decided to drop the game after i finish grinding F-15E.
I’m trying to set up a controller for SIM, but i don’t think i have the time for SIM anyway.
I can’t even play well because , even if i start the game with all the good thoughts… after 2-3 games uptier after uptier , same and same maps…i just can’t. And i don’t need the “grind” , the grind is not gameplay , moreover i have everything i want (except Su-27s) and i don’t play the vehicles because of the stupid MM.
You tell them about balance /MM issues , they don’t do anything. You tell them about maps and gameplay …bring something interesting, they don’t. People ask for …rated, they don’t . WW event is dead i don’t know how many years now. RB EC , we can’t have it because… no particular reason , i can’t think of a valid excuse.
In general…they don’t want to. Why should i?
I will try and push myself into SIM , but i’m already in a very bad mood because of RB that i don’t know if i really want to go through all the learning process and in the end to have the same issues i have in RB. However, first look, the MM feels more polished in SIM.

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Wow another fighter jockey useless opinion! wild. (Other aircraft that ARE NOT tdm fighters exist and you will have to get used to it. Try suggesting ways for them to be USEFUL in air RB rather than crying about removing them! thanks.)

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One has to ask WHY gaijin doesn’t want RB EC to be the standard mode? My answer? They don’t care about your enjoyment. Only your wallet.

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I can’t find an answer that doesn’t boil down to laziness. They don’t even want to run a test to see the players reaction.

Can’t wait to cut grass in fifth gen fighters in a year (maybe two max).

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I don’t think they are completely wrong with some stuff that they said, but I don’t fully agree with them.

I don’t want to see AI SPAA around the map, since it will probably be fairly OP becaue Gaijin can’t balance it well (see sim for an example).

It is also very annoying losing a match because your teammates didn’t do very much to help your team, but rather they selfishly went for bases instead. However, making ground targets too rewarding can mess up actual fighters, because many aren’t equipped to deal with ground targets. I don’t want players in good fighter aircraft to be encouraged to ignore their team and farm ground targets.

And zombers not existing at top tier is one of the few good things about it.

I also think that every single plane should be competent at air combat at their BR. There is no reason for the Su-22s to be a higher Br than the Mig-21Bis, while being a worse aircraft.

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Them being useful in Air RB requires a complete rework of how the mode is played. As of now, base bombing teammates just increase your chances of losing.

Are we not suggesting that here?

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Indeed we are, but that’s a possibility in the future. He’s talking very much in the present.

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thank you for your constructive feedback :)

i’ve spaded the entire chinese air tree without bombing in anything that isn’t a bomber.
strike aircraft already can be used as fighters and imo air rb should be balanced around it, at least how the game mode currently is. bases just reward passive play in what is supposed to be a team-based game, rendering people who go after ground targets as either wasted slots/free kills or as a nuisance that if ignored will end a battle prematurely

Good job catching this comment from smin.

It’s definitely not what i wanted to hear. With all the rumors regarding strategic bombers, im really surprised that they’re not considering adding RB EC as a permanent mode. It would kinda kill two birds with one stone.

Sounds to me like if it does come back it’ll probably be a weekend only mode like Naval EC. Better than nothing but still not ideal.

Im still surprised we dont have more “sandbox” combined arms modes with longer form gameplay. Even a more sandbox PVE mode could be good if the AI was competent. Instead we get the laughably outdated Assault PVE modes. Might as well play the single missions from 2012.

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Sure. This does not have anything to do with nor gives someone the right to advocate for TDM gameplay because of it (instead, advocate for gamemode changes) or abuse people for playing planes as bombers.

neat!

Nope! Even the A10 and Su25 are subpar fighters and those are usually the best examples of strike planes as at least these get good missiles. AMX is similar.

See:

This game has not been team based in years! It has almost no teamplay elements! You are inserted onto a team of 16 people all with different goals and desires!

From my understanding of gaijin, this sound like bad news for us.

A big part of the community aligns with the cookie cutter simple and fast matches, if they don’t create a separated AirRb EC I don’t think much will be done to make the current gamemode any different

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I was writing a suggestion to increase the ARB variation game modes, but you address it quite perfectly. The game really need more options ASAP, at the currently state there is no reason for Strike and Bombers to exist since the match resumes into a Furballs.

I really thing that we could have a tactical strike mode based on bombers and striker aircrafts with the fighters fighting to defend them and also the top tier maps should be always the big ones, like the SIM maps, since with BVR and BR 14.0 Aircrafts, maps like city are pathetic.

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Archiving. Major Update "Hornet Sting" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 4) - #6765

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This reply seems more hopeful I guess.

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lets hope its not a carrot on a stick situation.

it really sucks, cuz back in the day i absolutely LOVED air rb. could play it for hours on end, now its 1 or 2 matches and im just bored out of my mind.

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Maybe I’m being a Negative Nancy but doesn’t this mean that there is nothing about game modes in “Hornets Sting major and developments within”? Also it would nice if they could specifically list what the “challenges” actually are, because from what I heard there already was a ARBEC event in the past.

Feel free to ask what those challenges are. But it’s going to come back as “queue times, splitting the player base” and stuff.

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