The Yak-141 has a better radar than the Su-27. The Su-27’s advantage is that it can carry a large number of 27ER’s. BVR combat with SARHs mostly involves taking a few long range shots that you know that the opponent will dodge because you’re forcing them to respect the missile. Essentially you zone them as you progressively improve your position until you get a killing shot. The Yak has superior radar but it doesn’t have a sufficiently large supply of missiles to keep an opponent suppressed with continuous fire like that.
Definantly not. The yaks radar had a range of about 30-50km depending on the targets size. However the SU27s radar had a range of about 80-120km depending on the targets size. When they made the SU27 and Mig29, they wanted the Mig29 to be a close range dogfight jet (which is not what it should have been) and gave it a radar with a max range of about 35km until America found out and they gave it a better one. They wanted the SU27 to be more of a Missile carrier so they gave it a larger radar, more missiles etc. Thats why its the size of a large cargo ship.
This is a skill issue.
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I have stopped playing the highest tier because of the AIM 120 there is no defense against this missile.
Found the AIM-120 boot licker.
He’s not wrong. The SPAMRAAM can be defeated by notching+chaffing and multipathing like every other fox3. It’s still the best fox3 by an incredibly large margin but that advantage isn’t because of some immunity to countermeasures.
“No escape zone” only for America missiles, because I had battles where the enemies chaffed my R 77 at 5-7 km
The problem comes when you need to dodge 7 AIM-120s at once (yes, I had battles like this)
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To be completely frank, that’s not a problem with fighting AIM-120s. That’s a problem with being out of position and you’d be just as dead if seven R-77’s, sparrows, or even skyflashes were shot at you simultaneously. The AIM-120 is extremely good but not for the reasons that you’re citing.
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Whole lotta skill issue up in this thread, a basic understanding of BVR combat would solve everyones problem. But then who would I farm like bots?
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Not true. The AAM-4 and PL-12 are just as good or maybe even better than the AMRAAM. The only advantage the AMRAAM has over these 2 missiles is slightly better range, in return it has much worse maneuverability the worst out of any of the new Fox 3s and this time its by a pretty decent margin.
The AMRAAM is still a top 3 missile though and by far the most common missile as most nations have it plus only the J-8F gets the PL-12 so it might be better than the AMRAAM but its on an old platform.
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Really need the old forum’s incredulous laughter emote.
^ and this one is before the other slight AMRAAM nerf bringing the AMRAAM’s guidance delay from 0.5s → 0.6s. (The other Fox 3s are 0.3s)
well, the r27er is undodgeable below 20km
point?
the best ones are MICA EM and r77. Not for range, but who cares, everything launched beyond 25km is never going to hit because the motors don’t let these to. Within MA range they pull harder and since they force you to launch them up close the IOG and TOG will eventually splash on you, unlike the longer range AMRAAMs that make you try more risky long range launches.
The Su27 and MiG29G’s are the best top tiers right now. Why dogfight when your missiles can dogfight for you? it’s also impossible to kill a mig29 or a su27 with a single AMRAAM, they will keep flying or flat spin with a red tag as they keep launching unnotchable/unflareable missiles til it’s mayhem. As I like to say, “them russkies always have the last word in this game”
And before “just jam the WEZ”, how you gonna jam the WEZ if you’re most likely going to face an enemy head on in this game? Russians WEZ for ARH/SARH is well over 200 degrees around their nose and IR WEZ around 250… how about rushing (as I always do) and be lucky my team survives before reaching their six? It doesn’t happen.
i hope you are trolling
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No. To add more insult to injury, NATO missiles are well known for prioritizing teammates or wrong targets because they have zero resistance to heat signature differentials (like flares or a temmate flying away from an enemy you locked going head on or an AMRAAM going for you because you have more favorable closure rate than someone else barely 300m away moving slowlier towards the signal.
I don’t think you know what you’re talking about, basically all all-aspect missiles have the same rangeband ratios
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explain then why it is more likely you get TK’d by a shut-off seeker than a shrink seeker.
confirmation bias
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