It has a longer reload than most things, except soviet autoloaders.
Isn’t that just hull elevation controll, instead of tilting the front or back of the hull, like a japanese MBT would?
I feel it shouldn’t be moved up exclusively, but everything above should be moved up. To put 10.0 vehicles like the T-72B '1985 at the same level as the T-80U is a joke, especially seeing as it would face 12.0 aircraft and 11.7 tanks.
8.7-10.0 air and ground is a clusterfuck. Ground less so, though everything can benefit from a huge ceiling increase.
My bad, forgot to mention that. Also the spall, it`s basically non existend on the 105mm used by the AGS. The Sprut one-shots basically anything it comes across.
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My regular load of ammo is ~25-27 APFSDS, ~5-7 HE, ~5-7 ATGM, 1 HEATFS. It’s funny who you can catch off guard.
A 7.10 second reload is still faster than a e.g. stock crew 7.80 by the 2A4 or Ariete(P) (max crew would be 6.90, not that big off a difference) and as said before the reload rate of the Sprut can not be decreased by eliminating a crew member.
And who uses stock crew? xd
Some people actually do (I know that it`s stupid to do so). They buy a new crew for their newly unlocked high tier tank so they dont have to spend more SL on a new crew for their old high tier tank. They just want to have a bigger line-up.
How people deny Russian bias when stuff like this goes on is beyond belief.
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Yeah, and some people do other stupid things.
But generally people will use at least expert crew.
Why is a better tank being at higher BR bias?
2S25M with it’s mobility won’t outrun plenty of tanks, MBTs included, meanwhile AGS will.
Same can be said for AGS, your point here ?
Having 2s faster reload speed constantly is a massive benefit.
It can’t tilt forwards/backwards and it only has up-down movements available, so you won’t get nearly any gun depression out of that.
People doing stupid crap isn’t vehicle’s fault and shouldn’t be used to form any argument at all.
As far as I can see, 2S25M only has round + thermals combo going in it’s way, and in everything else (reload, profile, gun handling, mobility) AGS wins handily.
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Gun depression isn’t the only potential benefit of being able to adjust the suspension…as they mentioned, it allows you to fire hull down from spots that normally your tank would be too short for.
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Indeed, but the elevation gain from normal → highest is really small, so it’s kind of a niche feature when compared to other adaptive suspensions that can give you a fair amount of gun depression, something those types of tanks usually lack.
In my eyes AGS’ unmanned and really small turret is a much more important thing to have for a paper thin sniper that relies solely on hiding to survive.
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would be, if you wouldnt get one hit by everything that hits your turret. Anyone saying the 2S25M is a good tank at its current br just never ever has played the tank. You might assume, looking at the raw stats, that it is a decent vehicle till you actually played it yourself.
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Same thing happens with things, like the Conqueror.
You look at it’s stats, and wounder why is it only at 7.7. Then you play with it, and just want to unalive yourself because it is so awful.
Or the Pvkv IV. And many more.
out run… MBTs at top tier? what are you slow? you come up with some of the dumbest arguments.
APDS randomly shatters and has minimal post-pen damage. That’s the only reason.
Maybe read what the guy originally said.
But i will help you:
People look at some vehicle’s stats, and assume it must be good/OP, while in reality, it is just trash.
There are faster MBTs that the Sprut.
Yes, but if you look at the statistics of the Conqueror carefully and notice that it has an APDS as a primary shell, you know it is garbage…They used to be like baby APFSDS, now they are one of the worst shells in the game. HESH and APCR are probably the only worse ones.
It is plain wrong.
There are 2 types of APDS. The Conq uses the shit one. But things, like the Cent Mk 10 or the Vickers are really good, and have a very good APDS (the L7 gun and it’s derivatives in general).