idk I would still like to see it tried, especially with limits like not using 6x r73 and removing R27ER
nah I spaded these recently, they arent OP, unless you mean after decompression
the missiles are OP yes the airframe leaves to be desired but you still get 2-3 kills for free every game if you dont completely step out of line
12.0 sees far too many uptiers into 12.3-13.0 which just bodies the f1c because they also have equally powerful missiles but also 2x as good airframes 12.3 would kill the F1 and 12.7 would make the 2000D the same as the other 2000D
(And also effectively kill it as an air rb plane)
These aren’t problematic aircrafts
Honestly i dont see why the f1 is 12.0 sure it has ircm missile, but it has 2 its not much different from the EXTREMELY strong r24r. Both are 2 free kills if used right and bith are left with bad missiles after that
If anything has to happen, mig23 should move up, not f1 down
i dont see the reasoning behind that
because the f1 isn’t fine to go lower (magic 2s are too good)
i dont think so, a 10.7 aircraft is as well equpped to fight magic 2s than any 11.0. i would argue that r24rs are even better.
Either both stay the same BR or MiG-23 goes up. There is no world where F1 becomes 11.7
imo i dont think mig23 is particularly op
F-4C need 9J
F-4E need 9P
F-4S need 9L
Ok, then no BRs need to be changed. Glad we figured it out.
Absolutely not. Only one here that approaches reasonable is F-4C getting 9J. The best 12.0 Fighter aircraft does not need buffs.The F-4E does not need buffs nor did it use 9P.
i also dont think the f1c is worse than the mig23ml, magic 2s arent THAT good that having 2 of em warrants and higher br than mig23ml imo
yeah tbh i think 9es are plenty good at 10.0 when you get 4 of em and 4 7ds
I don’t know MiG-23MLs but, F-4S and FGR.2 can go higher BR with AIM-9Ls.
Also F-4S should have “correct” RWRs.
We’re not doing this back and forth all day. Simply put, MiG-23 either stays or goes up and F1 has no options but to stay 12.0. It does not belong at 11.7 with magic 2s.
F-4C is one of the most garbage planes in game. It SHOULD get AIM-9J if not even AIM-7E