Hi ! I ve unlocked the AAM-3 missiles on the F15-J. However I don’t know which one is the best between the AAM-3 and the AIM-9M. I see the AAM-3 has a better handling with 40G contrary to the AIM-9M. But which one has the best IRCCM ? I have no clue about it and I know the IRCCM works in different ways depending on the missile. Could you help me to choose ? Thank you :)
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Hey there!
Just letting you know that the AAM-3 and AIM-9M have very similar IRCCMs, both utilize seeker shutoff as their method! AAM-3 is just a better AIM-9M in game!
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As stated above, the AAM-3 is essentially a better AIM-9M. You can find more information here:
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Thank you very much for the answers as well as all the details ! :)
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They are almost the same
Aam3 pulls slightly more but its not rly 40gs dont be fooled by that
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Aam-3 is strictly better but not by enough for it to make any meaningful difference.
AAM-3 is flat out better
It uses the same seeker head as the 9M (at least in game) so its IRCCM is identical
But its got noticably more pull, at the expense of slightly worse range.
Highly recommend it over the 9M.
Nah the AAM-3 is incredibly range-y, easily the second longest range IR missile in the game. From front aspect it can get kills at 6-10km depending on altitude/launch speed
How isn’t it?
I assume you are saying R-24T/R-27T/R-27ET are all the same here as #1 spot and that AAM-3 is #2
Defyn tested it go watch it
It’s cleanly between the R-27T and R-27ET. The R-24T is also faster then it, but I didn’t consider it because it’s not found on any planes that can fight the AAM-3 (or the R-27ET to my knowledge).
It is a 40g missile. You just don’t know what that means.
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Range is still lacking massively in comparison
Compared to an R-27ET? Certainly. But it’s still the second longest range IR missile you can find at top tier, and more importantly for what I was replying to, much longer ranged then an Aim-9M. It’s not that it has a particularly strong motor, only marginally better then the Aim-9M’s, but the missile has exceedingly low drag.
It is a 40g missile. You just don’t know what that means.
Nah, so, you shouldn’t go off of the statcards, they’re kind of arbitrary and don’t reflect actual turning performance, it’s an upwards maximum which isn’t even always matched in internal stats. More accurately the peak turning of a missile is dictated by it’s PID guidance logic, and from there to a lesser extent it’s fin size and deployment. The AAM-3 only has a slightly more aggressive PID guidance; 0.0021 versus 0.002 proportional term, which generally outlines the peak the missile will turn. It does have a derivative term of 0.008 versus 0.006; roughly how snappy the missile is to sudden changes in direction and some lead characteristics. And for wing size it’s actually smaller then the aim-9Ms, but with more deflection.
So, no, it’s not “40Gs is a lot more then 30”, it’s, “this missile will pull a little bit harder, and is sometimes a bit better off the rail depending on speed.” And it’s not even true for all speeds, as due to stuff about how they accelerate differently the 9M catches up to pulling nearly as well off the rails at higher speed launches. (~mach 1).
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??? The point is that its g-tolerance IS 40g. Y’all (the community in general) desperately need to find out that g-tolerance does not determine agility alone.
That’s literally what i’m saying? Did you actually read what I said?
And everything you said was literally what I was implying
How were you implying that? From this it very much makes it seem like you were arguing with noamax saying that it only pulls slightly more, and not actually 40Gs.
Because you read words, then applied a ton of meaning to them that wasn’t originally present. Suffice to say you should not assume what people mean when they haven’t said what they mean.
“How isn’t it” is generally accepted as a contradictory statement in english, there is no implied reason for it to mean anything other then as normally assumed.