It’s all he even has, to make assumptions about how they think that a player ‘sub par’ playing ‘ability’ compared to numbers they dredge up, as being thier entire worth and nothing else other than KDR matters.
It’s honestly all that they have to rebut anything…
You know you have done this, stop being coy. Conqueror stats is one I can think off the top of my head.
And yours are equally terrible in RB. Again, you are backing up your statements about RB with AB play as your stats. This is not hard to comprehend. If you can’t produce any meaningful stats of your own then your opinion is based on no first hand experience, and therefore someone else’s “feelings” we know nothing about (i.e. might aswell be fake).
Don’t stat shame, and don’t stat shame when you HAVE NO STATS, and don’t then cry when someone points this out by trying to prune posts… the point of your exchange with me.
Yes, I pointed out you don’t play RB. So you do know what I was saying so this whole exchange is just you being openly disingenuous. Well done 👍👍
You are ANNOYED because you attempted to abuse the Flag system and got called on it! 🤣🤣
Yes, you flagged it as offensive… or are you just abusing the system?
Then get better at it so you can back up your spurious claims about the mode and “how things are”. Again, I am not criticising them, EXCEPT when you claim to know about stats in RB (when RB players are in debate about this area). Which is where you false flagged (since you did not flag it again I can see you lack faith in your “offensive” flagging…).
Which is not true since you use your AB stats as a comparision. You literally stat shame… literally.
Then back it up if everything is so easy. Bit like the self proclaimed CAS main saying CAS is so OP yep highest rating is 1.5 ground kills per match.
And hey, my stats are fine in ground vehicles which I play most, then my stats in air are not too bad, though shared with ARB which I entered last so impossible to breakdown (AI targets should be split from player, therefore stats currently are inaccurate). And stats do not even show BR played, what BRs you fought/killed, what killed you, etc etc.
So no, a player that uses all the tools does not automatically mean a “bad tank player”. You are clearly just trolling with offensive statements for some odd forum epeen; derailing.
Your “idea” of RB is just someone else’s opinion, that is all.
The point I made you say you understand but then you don’t. This is not about stats.
And I played on a old system (7 series) with a 1080 Ti, on a 4k screen, with poor 2 chan speakers from 20 years ago (central broke so not even that), playing on high settings that are not “tweaked” to be meta. And I still do with no plan to bother upgrading.
So you try that and see how hard it can be to spot anything and play “to the max” 👍
Prove it then. I could point to someone who “hates planes in GF” with the most horrendous ground stats. (Edit: but at the same time I do not judge these objectively poor stats as they lack so much context, and people play as they like; not all have to be chads, heck I played mainly to spade every vehicle in game in every tree and nation).
Then compare with mine, as a WT GFRB enjoyer.
So no, your statement has no backing. And being childish and “gathering stats of anyone that bombs ME in AB and therefore showing all Plane users are just bad” just worsens your position.
Guess what, one of the most published users here uses aircraft, therefore are they bad in their ground vehicles? No, he is top drawer in them too, even with air supposedly so dominating. See the flaw in your silly insinuations?
So yes, pipe down with the toxic (all “sides”) and maybe less division would exist. Unless you are just trolling of course… hmm…
And the same rambling as usual. Get over it. YOu have absolutely nothing valid with which you can do something against my arguments, so you have to use this nonsense as a last resort.
I am just curious when will you start attacking my grammar/spelling…
I do not do that. Pointing out that someone has bad stats is not that.
LOL.
As i said, i am not crying about it. I literally do not care about my stats in RB.
All you do is showing how utterly dishonest you are, which is shining a bad light on you, not me.
Ahm, what? Where did i do that?
Flagged what?
I do back up my claims. I have explained it many times. If you have issues understanding it, then please visit a doctor!
And again, if you would have any even mildly useful thing to discredit my arguments, you would have already used it.
The fact, that you just cry about me not playing RB shows, that you have nothing…
Ahm, no.
If i statshame, then you do the same too.
???
I did. Are you blind, or you just can’t understand it?
Oh, i get it, you are just dishonest.
If someone has trash stats in a tan, it means that the player is bad with them, regardless if said player uses CAS or not.
Which is way more than enough to run this game.
I am gathering data on it.
So far, from ~750 players, their average tank K/D is 0.58, which is worse than many botted accounts.
Some has even around 0.01 K/D.
So you ask me to prove it, i gather evidence, then you just call it childish. Yeah dude. whatever.
It is still more than what you do, but okay.
I am not saying all CAS users are bad. I say that on average they are worse, hence why they need an unfair mechanic.
I am not saying you’re entirely wrong, but I would like to add that, in general, there are more bad players than there are good, which could be why the average KD of those who bomb you is so low.
It would be interesting to see what’s the average KD of those who kill you with tanks as well.
Furthermore, I believe that the higher BR you are at, the greater the skill-level the CAS pilot generally are, as they are more experienced at the game to afford those higher BR vehicles in the first place.
The reason why you are being criticized is because you are talking about Ground Arcade Battle CAS, which is much much easier to attain than Ground Realistic Battle CAS, which have to be separately grinded, especially for Top Tier CAS, unless they buy a premium CAS aircraft and premium Top Tier Ground vehicle.
If you had stated that, on average, Arcade CAS pilots are worse, then I could see people understand where you are coming from.
Is someone who keeps repairing teammates, extinguishing their fires, dragging immobilized teammates out of the line of fire, scouting and capping a burden to the team?
I think a lot of what you said are correct, but I’d say that kill cameras are a staple to War Thunder and how it operates. Removing kill cameras may help reduce revenge-bombing, by making it more inconvenient, but it would only delay the inevitable. If someone truly wants the guy, who had killed them, dead, then they would go about it eventually.
I think aircraft spawning on the airfield would give the guy enough leeway to change their position before the revenge-bomber manages to get there.
I’m not going through your 10 billion posts. You had a conversation with @JuicyKuuuuki taking the mick out if his SPAA stats using your Conq AB stats, to say his comments lacked credibility. If you didn’t type do much on topics your guess at then maybe you remember what you write. Buddy.
Ad hominen attack by you… cough… you are not worth anyones time if you continue to be disingenuous (you know this is not about stats but your total lack of experience in RB).
Except it literally is… sigh… worsened when your are comparably worse (if that mattered).
Then why flag as offensive?.. why flag it at all? You know and admit you knew I was talking how your lack of experience reduces your right to point at others stats. In a mode you remember from 2014… you are writing this…
So, you replied to my comment about false flagging, therefore assumption is it was you. If it was not then why reply? I see now it might not have been you, but you could have cleared this up ages ago.
So if it was not you then fair enough. Try to be clearer/willing to see and accept a misunderstanding 👍 I don’t mind, whoever flagged it was wrong and never followed it up.
With your experience, not just words 👍 Are you intentionally ignoring what is being talked about? See, now on medical insults… well done mr Toxic 👍👍
Because you don’t and you appear to claim you know so much about it… by osmosis… lol. This is a fact and not a dig at you, play what you want.
Why are you taking this as someone criticising you rather than pointing to opinions you yourself cannot back up in game? (If it was so easy you could build up a few hundred aircraft and then produce stats to show how easy every aircraft is… I suggest the Cannon Tempest to start.
No, because I clearly do not give huge standing for stats. That is you. And I know you understand since you pretty much admit it.
Yes, your claims on RB with little to no experience are lacking in worth.
One of your premises is that people using planes are bad in stats. I point to you to a comment (in one of these 15 copy topics, amongst thousands of comments, no not looking for specifics) I have seen in conversation with ULQ about how easy x vehicle is. In this OP vehicle the CAS main (self professed) got a whopping 1.5 kills per match. If CAS is so easy then why can’t a CAS main get such easy kills, compared to ULQs Corsair (I think) and UK Hellcat stats.
Point being that playing aircraft =/= bad in tanks. This is YOUR position stating users of planes are bad in tanks. Can you not understand?
Nope, I saw your RB stats in air and see no proof. Please link.
Yes, but your insinuation is play planes = bad in tanks. And your anaysis of stats is lacking if you have no experience for almost 10 YEARS…
And? It is not the best way. And can’t spot ground vehicles easily. But how would you know? You don’t.
Yes, pointless data gathered by angry player who attacks others for their own failings. Well done, but of course is about AB, not RB which this is about.
In RB… why would your pithy attempts to shame other AB players “gather evidence”?
Your “opinion” is blown out the water when users of planes on GFRB also have good ground vehicle stats.
Your claim that plane user = bad is not true, that is all.
See, we get there is the end. Are they worse then? No, the players vary widly across WT. Was the mechanic added for the reason you state? No.
So, why are you being so toxic? Trolling? Misunderstanding? Something else?
You gather AB stats and use this to prove your statements on RB players?
And again, I used all tools, my stats are not “try hard” but everything pretty much is positive if you care. So plane users are as varied as those that don’t.
Aircraft were put/kept in GF because Gaijin, after pulling in so much attention with initial air modes and their mouse-aim easy to access military game, went into Ground Vehicles with the explicit purpose of expanding the game into a Combined (not Real Life combined) warfare shooter with capture objectives. It mighg well be used by some as some sort of crutch, but by all means not all.
Your sweeping statements are neither helpful or accurate.
But I get it, on average, with feelings. But imagine having these conversations without the poking at others? Might get more support, right? Or continue to poke and wonder why this has stayed stagnant for over 6 years… 6 years…
We would all love new modes. We would probably all love improved gameplay (though we all have own ideas). I would possibly even reinstall if a new mode/modes were added, even a TO mode ( I have no issue with such modes existing, the confusion comes when TO requesters conflate what other members think with Gaijins position; hence very few true anti-TO members in forum).
How to make friends and influence people. Silkmonger could never work that out and see what that got him (the original and main voice of old for TO mode request).
So stop poking and discussion won’t go to hell with insulting everyone else 👍
He does understand from what I have seen. Hence me not backing down on that point about his point of view lacking.
Oddly when I played AB I just took air waves as part of the game, there to use or not, and often wonky as heck (aircraft position meaning no interceptor has a chance, of reverse with bomber having no chance at spawn; so random). So when I moved to RB (mate quit and many vehicles not as usable in AB like lights and weak TDs) I had no illusions as to what the game was (but much higher SP costs back then, now anyone can SPAM anything, air or ground).
I understand some use x vehicles for x reasons, but trying to say most/average/all (he points to average now) is just silly and provactive.
This is why I doubt some intentions within the TO space.
A complex topic revolving around context and use of word “selfish”. Based on beliefs within and of said game. Not really going to get into that one here.
If one is dying more than killing, he is a burder to the team. There is nothing really to discuss here as enemy is gaining more SP than You are taking from him thus the said player is leading the team to lost game.