A Swiss air sub-tree for Germany

We have different views on suffering. Id say seeing the vehicle your nation made be on another nation is rough but the US also gets a ton of jets to make up for that.

I never said the US would be left behind. You literally didn’t even understand what my opinion was for when the A is added and why adding it as a Psuedo C model is a bad thing. Additionally at least the KWS has on par weapons. The JA37D had 2 AIM 7E-2’s against R27ER and Aim 7F/M but your right the KWS is entirely different and isnt anything like that. /s

Also I’d argue the J11A is a worse vehicle than the KWS but thats for you to decide.

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Seeing another version of a jet you made while get metric asstons of other jets is hardly suffering I’d say.

Always having a meta vehicle and a new jet every patch is a small price to pay

4 on par weapons hardly makes up for a airframe that is just a bus.

I can’t understand any issues the US has in air because they simply don’t make sense. They have had a meta jet every patch, them not getting every single thing ever doesn’t really seem like a real problem to me.

It’s like a rich guy having to pay more taxes then everyone else.

And we all have different tastes. I dont care for the F15 or F16. I like harriers. Its why i enjoyed playing britain. I wanted the AV-8B+ but the US didn’t get it. Italy did. So the US for me wasn’t an appealing or worthwhile option to play. They could be the best vehicle but if they dont have what i want i have no interest. Not everyone can play every nation so again if you’re playing a nation for something specifc wnd its not there it sucks.

Also congrats you got 4 missiles and not 2 inferior missiles like the the Ja37D, again if you wanna keep up the who had it worse game and keep trying to explain why germany needs the f18 first go ahead. I dont care or agree with that statement.(kind alike how you didn’t bother to even think about any of the arguments i made and blatantly ignored them to fit your narrative.) I agree with them getting something but not getting it first because its a childish take.

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You do know that the JAS39 is in game? Like it much better flight performance, AIM-120s and AIM-9L/i with less smoke.

Why do you keep comparing it to the 37D? Like they aren’t even close in BR.

No one is saying Germany needs it first, I’m saying Germany needs something and if the gap can be filled by a trialed vehicle that why not? I feel like your honestly ignoring everything I’m saying at this point

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Yeah because the Jas39 A being added alongside the C was what was needed when the version we have in game isnt even real. I could explain whybits incorrect but i wouldn’t be suprised for it to go over your head regardless if sweden and britain can wait then Germany can wait for one of their swiss vehicles that were used.

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Germany has waited though. The MiG-29G came out last October, and that was the patch after Russia got their equivalent MiG. The last time Germany got a meta jet that wasn’t late to the party was in update Locked On in 2019, over five years ago. Ever since then, Germany has had to wait until the the origin nation got to play with their toys first, and in the case of the F-4F, waited almost a year for no good reason.

I’m not saying Germany suffers, there are places where Germany excells like in the ground tree, but Germany getting snubbed in it’s top tier air has happened again and again and again and it’s getting frustrating, especially when people think that this is the first time this has ever happened to Germany.

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Seriously, what does that have to do with anything? This is just starting to seem petty at this point, and pretty hypocritical.

Germany has waited, they get no special treatment but other nations do.

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Germany always had to wait. That is a fact.

They always got their Jets way later than anyone else got theirs.

An update later than the others got theirs

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interesting, there could even be a Swiss BF-109E, on the other hand they have an EC635 attack helicopter and unique tanks and since France will have the Netherlands as a sub tree, Germany could in the future obtain Romania as a sub tree, they have the F -16.

No, we don’t. They’re just transport/liaison.

What SChindibee said

Aren’t there already Romanian vehicles in the Italian tree ?

understood

I had forgotten it, although personally I would have liked to see Spanish units in the Italian tree.

I mean, the only one in-game already is (outside of marketplace skins of course).

Maybe we’ll see more Spanish stuff in the future? Maybe not? (Their navy could add some things to Italy, but that’s not on the table right now)

Germany has Condor Legion planes too

He 51
He 112 A-0
Flegel’s Bf 109 A

I think Spain will come as a standalone nation, because it has many vehicles from different nations and own slightly different variants of such vehicles + it can accomodate few other Mediterranean nations like Portugal and Greece.
Something like this:

Italy most likely will continue to receive stuff from Hungary and Romania, hopefully they add some actual Italian vehicles in-between…

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The chances of a Spanish are pretty much zero, since there is little demand for it and they have very few, if any, domestic vehicles.

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That’s true, but Gaijin didn’t give them a spanish flag. They were germans in Spain anyway.

Because most, if not all, of Spanish equipment is imported, I think we’ll keep seeing Spanish stuff as premium/tech tree/event vehicles spread throughout nations. I’m also rooting for the Greco-Iberian Tech tree!