I don’t think it would be a problem to put Strela-10M2 on BR 10.3, but it would be nice to give it passive detection. Historical feature and would reduce a bit the main problem with target searching.
I do? The difference is no other vehicle can spawn and get 5+ kills that easily. It’s unbalanced regardless of what side of the fence you are on.
The difference is no other vehicle can spawn and get 5+ kills that easily.
Those exists, they’re called helicopters/CAS.
Stop crying just because SPAA get the same power for once.
Just spawn a tank and kill it, it’s actually defenceless if you play the game properly.
Or just play any of the air vehicles that outrange it and don’t play them like an idiot.
Lmao, “You need to spawn a tank and kill it” Did you know what are you saying?
t seems that I need to go to your spawn point and kill you which needs to kill most of your teammates. so what is supposed to use CAS?
Yes I have skill issue because I can’t rush to spawn point each battle, How is your skill? It seems that you are an ACE in tanks right? Show us.
The CAS is OP, so must nerf, the SPAA is OP, “it is able to effectively do its job”
What a vested interest. In 10.3, you are still able to use or it is your skill issue as well.
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Probably any tank that’s forcing you to use more than a single braincell to defeat. Remember, thinking isn’t allowed in this game.
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There you go again with your ridiculous “go play something else” argument that can be used to shut down literally any discussion. What’s the point of the forums there anyways ?
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Yeah, the Strela definitely requires a lot of brain power, right? So you think grb, especially top tier, would be well balanced if it was just MBTs? The 2a7 and 122B+ aren’t dominating?
Ridiculous to you maybe.
I personally find it ridiculous that people would download and play a combined-arms game for years, whilst simultaneously complaining about combined-arms, and requesting CAS be made irrelevant by SPAA. If you want to only play tanks, why are you not playing a tank only game?
It’s as stupid as someone going onto the WoT forum and complaining why there isn’t a mode with CAS.
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It’s not about the usage of Strela, how can’t you see that ?
ULQ asked you to name a tank that will be OP in the environment without CAS, implying there are tanks that can only be effectively countered by CAS, which is so wrong.
Yes, most tiers (especially higher up you go) without CAS would most likely be a much less of a cesspool than they currently are, which is completely logical. It’s sometimes hard to balance out ground vehicles between themselves, so introducing a couple of other variables to the mix surely won’t help and is most likely a recipe for disaster.
The same thing can be applied to you buddy.
You played this game for literal years while being absolutely sure there’s bias involved in it, but yet somehow, you’re still here complaining about it in every single thread you can.
Why don’t you leave and play some game without bias out there ?
Why are you sticking around ?
It’s not.
Adding aircraft to battles in WOT would take much more balancing and hard work to accomplish than simply adding a TO mode in WT in which everything stays the same and spawning aircraft is simply outlawed.
You see, WOT devs would have to jump through multiple hoops to make that wish happen, meanwhile TO in WT would almost be plug&play for Gaijin.
That’s a big difference.
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The difference is I don’t make a new thread every day demanding a bias-free version of the game. I know GJN are basically never going to change, and I have accepted RussianBias is part of the game by grinding the entirety of the Russian trees so I can also enjoy the bias. Pointing out that the bias exists to shills on the forum who deny it, is not quite the same thing.
But just to really drive home how faulty your logic is - another key difference is that there is no other combined-arms game on the market quite like war thunder, but there is literally a game designed specifically just for tank-only combat already.
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Your countless, repeating posts about bias over and over again is more than enough. You know bias is there, you know Gaijin won’t change anything but you’re still here.
Why is that ?
Go find a bias-free game and play that instead, you can do it. Any more posts about bias are irrelevant, go play something else.
Accept it and move on, no need to write countless posts about bias, no one cares, Gaijin doesn’t care, so why should you spend any time discussing it ?
Make your own game or support someone else. This also applies to everyone else complaining about bias. You and others that are literally throwing money at clearly biased devs to buy clearly biased vehicles suggests people have more than enough money to spend on ridiculous things.
WT being the only combined-arms game doesn’t stop you from quitting the game completely because you feel like you’re being done dirty intentionally by the devs themselves.
Simply put, if you don’t like bias just stop playing the game, no one is forcing you to be here, so all this crying on the forum is simply ridiculous.
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I think this might be the first time I’ve seen you admit to RussianBias in WT, so at least you’re making progress. Baby-steps. Although I did just explain clearly to you why I continue to play WT - it’s fun and it’s the only combined-arms game on the market. It isn’t the only tank-only game on the market. Is your English really so bad that you couldn’t understand that? I don’t know how to explain it any simpler I’m afraid so you’ll just have to make do.
Simply put, if you don’t like CAS just stop playing the game, no one is forcing you to be here, so all this crying on the forum is simply ridiculous.
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In a full downtier vehicles like the T28(6.3), T95 and Maus (though mostly the former, since it sits at @ 6.3) would be very hard to remove due to the sheer quantity of frontal amour (and the potential maps layout leading to it being difficult / impossible to flank, let alone if they were in a supported position or had attentive teammates / squad members) and the lack of sufficient pen within the 5.3 ~ 6.3 bracket (e.g 90mm M431 HEAT has exactly 305mm of pen & can be found on the M36B2) and the limits on the absolute count of top BR players in any given match make encountering those few vehicles with sufficient ammo in their effective range a crapshoot.
Let alone what may happen due to squads abusing prior mentioned factors.
I was speaking from your POV, since it’s pretty clear that you know for a fact there’s bias in this game and that Gaijin won’t change anything regarding that, but yet here you are crying your eyes out at every possible opportunity you get.
You definitely seem as someone who’s still malding about it, not someone who accepted it and moved on with his life.
So it’s fun being intentionally shafted by the devs time and time again just to make one nation happy, all the while throwing money their way as a “job well done” sign. Are you a masochist by any chance ?
By the way, looking at BF2042 it seems you can play both ground and air units in the same lobby, practically making it a combined-arms game.
Yes, it isn’t the same experience but the same can be said for WOT vs WT.
Yeah, you’ve been using that one for a while and I just showcased how a clown argument like that works against you as well ?
You don’t like something ? → Stop playing → End of discussion
Honestly, forum doesn’t even need to exist if everyone’s going to use this type of crappy arguments.
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Yeah, you ignored the part where I said I’m not making threads every day to whine about russian bias, like the CAS-haters do. They clearly aren’t enjoying the game in its current state. Me enjoying the game whilst pointing out the hypocrisy of GJN in their own Dev blogs is not quite the same thing. As for “throwing money their way”, you need to realise that not everyone is in a tough economic situation like you. I’ve spent peanuts on WT considering how many hours I’ve played it.
Keep trying, you might make a good point by accident eventually.
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Sounds like a lot of cope for someone who can’t kill a strela who has a 7mm machine gun with a tank.
Combined arms game buddy.
Git gud.
is that your argument it not a really good spaa as it can die by a machine gun
You know where SPAA usually are at which is spawn
do you know what in between spawn and you
it the whole enemy team
The strela was the best SPAA due to its missile being miles better then everyone else’s
Good, vehicles that put most of their eggs in one basket should be really strong in that field.
T28 and T95 havepretty exposed cupolas that can be penned by even APHE slingers.
Maus is a joke, it can be OHK’d by M109 which sits at 6.3 and there’s like dozen vehicles at the 6.7 - 7.7 range that can front pen that thing.
As I said, I don’t see the issue with super heavy tanks having great frontal armor at their BR, they’re designed to have just that. One could argue that planes (and helis in some cases) will cause those vehicles much more harm than they would to other vehicles in a TO setting.
Let me get this straight, anything that can’t basically lolpen those doesn’t have sufficient pen ?
If T28 gets abused by the squads it’s a normal thing to expect other squads countering that by using 6.3 vehicles of their own.
No my argument is the same asinine argument that CAS/heli morons use when people complain that getting bombed by someone from 10km away in a ground vehicle is unfair and unfun and the only response they have is “just spawn a plane”.
You cannot reason with CAS/heli spammers because they don’t care that they’re ruining the ground game for the whole enemy team when they wipe half of it in under a minute with fire and forget missiles. They only care when suddenly something appears that can shut them down with as much ease (and even then there are planes/helis at or below the BR that can kill it from outside its range).
CAS/heli spammers are selfish and entitled and do not want SPAA to be effective, that’s all this boils down to as much as they will cry and cope and pretend otherwise.
So they should just spawn a tank and kill the strela or go play WoT.
Also as I’ve said other SPAA should be moved downwards and balanced around where the strela is currently sat so they are all equally useful instead of trying to make them all equally shit.
You missed the part where I said that isn’t important since you are somehow finding and then posting in most (if not all) threads about USSR equipment crying your eyes out about bias.
This behavior is indicative of someone that still hasn’t accepted it and moved on, and is a clear sign of coping and seething where you have to vent your frustrations somewhere.
I mean, what’s the issue here ?
You know WT is a biased game and that thing won’t change anytime soon, so either play the game as it is or leave it completely. Malding about it non-stop will change absolutely nothing and at this point it’s nothing more than spam.
You enjoy the game that is willingly sabotaging and literally disrespecting plenty of it’s players (you included) just to satisfy their IRL goals and agendas ?
As I said, you might be a masochist.
Only thing that’s a fact here is you giving money to a shady company that’s obviously under influence of IRL political agendas. Not only that, you’re giving away that money to buy obviously biased and OP vehicles, basically supporting the devs for all that bias they implemented in the game.
Sorry buddy, but this behavior isn’t something a healthy individual would do.
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Oh no, the Russian says my point isn’t important! What an astute deconstruction of my argument!
You keep ignoring the part where I said I enjoy WT, and my sensible solution to RussianBias was just to play Russia. I recommend everyone plays Russia and experiences it. The CAS complainers should do the same and just abuse CAS if they think it’s so easy.
No it isn’t, making a new thread about the same thing every day would be spam.
You would have a point if I were barred from playing Russia myself.
If some GJN devs can afford bread for another week after I throw the company some of my pocket change, I won’t lose any sleep. If anything you can consider it charity giving money to those less fortunate.
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