The A-5C in the Chinese should be 10.3, NOT 10.7. At 10.7 there are so many better planes than it. For example the J-7D (also a Chinese premium at 10.7) Is better in every way possible, it is faster, turns better, more missile that are only SLIGHTLY worse but still good for the BR, more countermeasures and is just overall better than the A-5C. And do NOT EVEN GET ME STARTED with the J35XS at 10.3… If that is at 10.3, might as well make the A-5C BR 10.0. There are just so many planes better than it at the same or lower BR like the F-5C, J-7D, J35XS, F-8E and so many others. My point is just bring the A-5C to 10.3 because it just can’t compare itself to other planes at the BR because it gets absolutely crushed by them.
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Undertiered, should be 11.0
Undertiered, should be 10.7 with that amount of 9Js
worse missiles. Better airframe. Worse engines.
Worse in everyway other than missile count, the guns, and cms
Well sadly its better than some 10.3s so it kinda can’t. The MiG-19 airframe and engines it has is really good and the missiles are some of the best rear aspects at the bracket. Cm count is a somewhat legit concern but MiG-23M has 12 at 11.0. A-5C is kinda like a PRC F-5 with better missiles, so it can’t go down. That said if 35XS aand J-7D does go up it would make this more viable.
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Although the F-5C does have worse engines, I find it still can reach a higher top speed.
The top speed of the 5C isn’t much higher than the A-5C, so in a fight against one you’d catch him unless he’s already at that top speed.
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No, push everything else around it up.
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It has 12 flares my guy and they are 9Js not 9Ls
Why do you point this out? A-5C is far worse aircraft than F-5C in air RB
Fully wrong? Please actually try to compare them
SUCH AS?
No it’s not. A-5C has pretty much a strictly worse FM than the MiG-19 that is it 9.3. It is extremely evident you have never played the A-5C OR the Q-5s and are making guesses.
1 Flare defeats these + short range + they are already found at 10.0 AND the mirages there get SARH.
Yes and it’s a garbage aircraft. Can you guess why?
Literally no relation even in the slightest
Play the jet, (or even play a Q5) and get back to me.
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extremely undertiered.
all the planes you mention as better are undertiered
Im not interested in debating with you given your “takes” on the su-7 thread.
ok so, i have played both the mig19 and a5c and they fly nothing alike. while the mig19 will pull a lot of AOA and keep its energy qute well the a5c will compress hard and will not pull whatsoever, if you were to dogfight a mig19(any really) vs the a5c the mig19 will win in all scenarios, plus the guns of the a5c are way worse
I never suggested otherwise. However, the only main difference between the A-5 and the mig is the heavier weight and lower compression ceiling. The engines still beat most jets completely out of the water, it’ll out-rate most planes at its own br.
Yeah the nr-23s are… not the best basically lower firerate gsh-23s. At least one good thing is you have more trigger time than gsh-23s? At least it does have 200 something rounds instead of 60 on the NR-30 the J-7E uses?
You are smoking something if you think in any world an f5c is loosing to a A-5c that thing is complete garbage.
I assure you despite what your graph might say it does not
The hypocrite is right that the F-5C will lose a 2 circle, what he has failed to say is that 2 circles are not something that can usually be pulled off in air RB.
Bro has to add a personal attack to make a point
Its pretty accurate. People thought mig-29M was dogshit until it outrated F-16Cs post buff
Maybe in a million years but reality in game is different the A5c is never winning that fight.
I agree that in most cases the A-5C is going to have an incredibly difficult time winning that.
What’d they finally cave in and give the thing its max pull as its sustained AOA?
Edit: I’m also not going to be taking anything you say about the A5c being a better plane than the f5c serious anymore considering you have exactly zero matches in it.
not really, the engines dont mean much since 1 the plane is a crapsonic and will struggle to push past mach 1 and 2 at 10.7 dogfights dont happen unless way later in the match, something like a NF-5a, mig21MF/bis/7D, f4e/ej, kfir canard, mig23 and so on are much better at the range as they are not capped by the flight performance, the a5c would be a better plane at 10.3 and there wouldnt be issue with that, now the q5a and q5L should be moved back to 9.3 bc i have no idea how a plane with no missiles is 10.0