It’s the kind of logic you are trying to prove here. A good player can be untouchable in any jet. Which does not mean that the aircraft is OP. You have gepard in german tech tree which is superior than it’s American counter part(US doesnt even have a equivalent spaa at that BR) and gepard can easily deal with such attackers.Even the pantsir wont save you if you are just sittings still at your spawn point.
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You are trying to justify A-4E being ok at 8.7 beacuse 90% of its players skipped whole tree and don’t know how to play it…
Let’s give 1000 Ob. 279s to Level 1 players, that will make it’s winrate drop so it becomes balanced.
Again, please play at least 1 battle with it before spewing nonsense. You have zero idea what you’re talking about.
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gaijin balances br based on player statistics
You are just hating a bad vehicle for no reason. If A4E needs higher BR then other jets such as the G91 should move to a higher BR as well.
I literally said that in original post, can you even read? There’s no point discussing with you if you can’t. I’m sorry.
Do I need to use that vehicle to have some idea about it? No. I have played enough matches against it. I know it’s pros and cons.
then good luck using G91 or A4E against su25 or any 10.0 jets
I have fought against them, i also have the A4-E spaded, so i know the limitation of it and i do get shot down when playing cas with it. Its not a tank and can not take much damage.
yes you can but thats also going to throw off your bullpup when trying to guild it in as it messes up the camera angle, and again if the SPAA moves ( it is possible to move the SPAA its not stationary ) the chances of the bullpup hitting dramatically reduced. There is very little if any splash damage because its not a lot of explosive force.
Its frustrating to get killed by something repeatedly i understand but have you even flown the A4-E? have you tried to do CAS with bullpups in ground rb? Personally i dont like them much and i prefer the walleye as i can send that at 10 miles out to take out spaa and i get the TV bomb view to get that locked and it tracks moving targets.
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As I said before without separated BRs these aircrafts cannot receive higher BRs otherwise they will suffer even more in Air battles. A4E is way worse compared to the G91 in air battles. Ground battles aren’t the only game mode. You need to play Air battles in order to unlock the modifications(I know it’s possible to buy the mods)
This right here absolutely demolishes any possible argument you could have because you clearly havent played any 35mm orelikon spaa.
Little test, at which range does 35mm HE ammo self destructs?
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It’s way better than M163. Also it has high rate of fire which can help you hit fast moving targets.
Aircraft is overpowered in mode A beacuse it needs to be viable in mode B. Is that ok? You have plethora of other jets to use in Air RB, most nations have 1 or 2 good SPAAs around 8.7
I personally seldom fly CAS in ground battles, but based on my games in SPAA (~350 Gepard, ~200 VEAK40,~100 ZSU-23) Bullpup carriers are the hardest to deal with just beacuse they can fire they ordnance pretty accurately at around 3.5-4km and then maneuver to throw off the radar. It is possible to discourage them from attacking you if you spot them first. No other aircraft (or helicopters) are able to do this.
Also, you can argument that mixed battles ideally would be a triangle of Aircraft countering tanks, Tanks countering SPAAs, and SPAAs countering Aircraft. But at some BRs SPAAs are barely able to keep up with planes.
The correct answer would be 3km, thus the absolute maximum range is 3km.
Whats the max bullup range? Oh right, 8km.
Theres quite bit of a difference, innit?
But only the most skilled players would hit at those ranges.
So lets be generous and say less skilled players launch them at half of that distance, whcih outs us at…4 km. Still an entire kilometer outside of maximum gepard range.
So lets be even more generous and say A-4E launches the bullup at 3km range.
With the 35mm projectile speed of 1175m/s thats around what, 2.5 seconds of flight time. 2.5 seconds during which A-4E can still guide the bullup unimpended.
Odds are not looking good for our spaa, are they?
Now to get use of entiriety of said 3km range gepard would actually have to fire even before A-4E enters its gun range, increasing the time during which A-4E can react. Seeing as gepard belts use tracers, its not really hard to notice them…
Again, odds are not looking good for our little spaa.
Not to mention that 35mm shells arent airbust and need to land a direct hit. Quite the task considering that at max range A-4E has almost 3 seconds to dodge them.
Not to mention A-4E DOESNT HAVE TO GUIDE THE BULLUP effectively turning it into a really big rocket or rather unguided bomb with flat trajectory.
I dont know about you, but it seems odds are stacked against spaas.
Well its probably just a skill issue for me then as im no where near that good with them. I do know a popular way with them is to dive straight down to get a kill.
Yeah that’s pretty effective beacuse you’re out of radar vertical range and diving straight down you don’t even need to guide the missile if your target pre-occupied.
I have the A4E and honestly geopards and strelas and those ozelots are all a menace to it. the flares and chaff only work 50% of the time. And it is extremely susceptible to any damage to it’s air frame. if you take any damage on the wings or fuselage you have to almost always dump your payload to keep from falling out of the air.
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Strelas definetively, moreso now that they have photocontrast seeker.
Ozelots have only 13Gs. They are not that hard to evade, but they have IRCCM so they are harder to flare.
Gun based spaas that dont have proximity fuzes simply cant engage the A-4Es (or G.91s) effectively. They are limited by their absolute max range of 3km.
The effective range is also somewhere around 1.5km, which is well within bullups range.
I think the fact I almost always use the Zuni rockets is why the geopards are a threat. getting that close is a art in and of itself
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