I haven’t seen a topic made specifically about this issue, so I don’t see any problem with one being made.
I’ve seen plenty of people pointing out how Sabers and MiG-15s facing things like Me-262s is awful. his post is nothing new
Please remain on topic and avoid derailing this into a discussion between you two. Otherwise the thread goes down.
Dead gamemode + 8.0+ has been horrendous for some time, essentially play the meta or suffer miserably
i couldn’t remember the last time this was brought up so I did a quick forum search and the last topic was 6 months ago and the thread died in 7 posts
idk
you seem upset
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Korean War era jet BR is dead since 2019 :/
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Game was better then both playerbase wise and game wise
All rocket planes, including the BI, should be 8.3 at minimum.
Rocket planes should either be relegated to anti bomber duty, or baiting faster opponents into unfavourable turn fights. They should not have dominion over entire teams because the opponents are not fast enough (7.0s and lower).
Rocket planes at any lower BR ratings would make sense only if their throttle control was taken away, turning them into high alt gliders, as they were intended to be used.
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No. The Me-163 would be overtiered at 8.3, especially considering that it is worse than the Mig-15 (currently 8.0, should be 8.3).
Then give them all an airspawn. They do not have domination over all teams, because they sometimes aren’t even the fastest planes at their own BR (F-84G and La-200 come to mind as faster planes).
That wouldn’t be realistic atleast in the Me-163s case due to the engine being throttleable.
The only undertiered one is the BI, the only correctly tiered one is the 8.0 me-163, and both the Ki-200 and other Me-163 are overtiered at 8.7.
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7.0s can do absolutely nothing to rocket planes, other than team work.
Rocket planes can rope faster opponents into unfavourable conditions in a 1v1, that is, they can actually fight back.
I would much rather have the rocket pilots put in effort for kills rather than giving them entire teams for free on a silver platter.
Bro I get it I post stuff about fixing things I’m passionate about and get 20 views and zero engagement its pathetic.
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Maybe in a decompressed game but rn 8.0 is fine for the me163s as the mig15bis is 8.0-8.3 and the f86a5 is 8.0 while f86f are 8.3
yeah its ridiculous, I see it happen to others too like you said
They (except the BI) already have to. They constantly face Mig-15s and Mig-17s and comparable aircraft. Those planes are all faster, and are just better.
The real difference is player skill, bad players aren’t the ones playing the Me-163s and Ki-200s.
Rocket planes also have extremely limited fuel, and they tend to be quite fragile too.
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Yeah, that’s another issue, but again, a 7.0 can’t fight a rocket plane whatsoever, whereas a rocket plane CAN fight a mig 15 bis or a sabre (at the very least force a stalemate), even if they are better than the rocket planes. From a balancing point of view, you don’t want to create a situation where some planes simply have no choice in a fight.
Edit: got distracted by the other message so my reply went offroad lol
Even considering this I don’t think 8.0 is too low. Compression is too great for this to be a pressing matter.
In 2015-2017?
Yes but, 2018 was awful because ofsuper unbalanced matchmakers.
Not sure we can bring back same level with 2017 matchmakers because of subtrees and China, Sweden, Israel.
I’m aware and it’s tragic
I stopped flying the Javelin after the F3H spam; seems they can do everything it does but better…
Having a better time in the Sea Hawk because it can at least use its manuverability to lure people into a flat scissor or something. I am not the expert but I had success this way.
But it should not be 8.0 because it has no AIM-9B like the premiums and it’s also got an extreme lack of engine power on anything but min fuel.
I don’t even know if I want to research and waste SL on another British jet because the experience is miserable.
All rocket planes should be removed, they just don’t fit the game: you either have a much faster jet and you run away until they run out of fuel (engaging gameplay) or you just die.
On the sim side,
in 3-5 BR and 5-6.7 BR brackets I feel flying even if my plane is on the bottom of that rotation’s bracket, I am still within relative performance capabilities of air craft present and what advantages exist can be compensated for with some difficulty and thinking.
Tried to do korean war brackets with my F2H-2 (7.7-8.7, 8.0-9.0). Now, it’s only been a few flyouts (so part of it is definitely a skill issue) as it’s insanely expensive to fly (15k to spawn…) but I feel being on the bottom of a bracket hurts way, way more in these tiers. In essence, it feels like everything out-speeds me by a good 200-300 km/h and I’ve no hope of catching anyone even if I’m flying ~850-900 km/h+ with my wings fluttering.
The A.I bombers/attackers also seem to outrun me with ease.
Edit: I discovered by the A.I bombers/attackers outrun my 8.0 F2H-2.
They’re Cl13 sabres.
Why.
Why is there a CL13 sabre in a 7.3-8.3 bracket. Like sure, they’re a.i and don’t really fight back (but I actually saw them shoot down the sk60 on my team), but like… how is an sk60 supposed to catch them. How is a f80 supposed to catch them. How is an F2H-2 supposed to catch them?
Only reason I caught them was because they derped out and started flying in circles so I could cut them off.
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