I still don’t understand why does Kugel sit higher than Zesty 45. The last one is just plain superior in every metric beside survivability. The ostwind is pretty weak for it’s br. It’s not that I don’t like, it’s just weak.
Armour. That’s it.
Same reason the Skink is 5.3 (also no mention here?). Simply because CAS players can’t reliably kill it with MG’s they get uptiered.
If facing Germany?
No problem, if they are more than 800m away, they are not hitting me.
I can start the attack at dhorter distance, I can disengage later.
Trying to hit that reload window is absolutely suicidial, as many SPAA users will stop firing due to general futility and wait for some idiot to come closer.
The reload is problem for SPAA user himself as he can get unlucky. But it can’t be planned upon.
It’s basically a random factor from plane’s perspective.
Hence ZDS can receive a reload buff for all I care and go to 6.7 where it would still be the best SPAA.
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Zerstörer sucks balls.
Dies to a gust of wind.
Gigantic target, easy to identify.
Tiny magazines meaning you can ran out of ammo even if aircraft goes straight at you (if you don’t fire at range, he can just hit you from 11
200m away and fly off if you do fire at range, 30 round mags may not last).
No gun depression to the sides (ok, there’s some, it’s maybe -0,5 degrees), only gun elevation to the rear.
Mobility is equally crap for both, but Zerst is much wider and thus easier to get stuck.
Armor makes some difference for Kugel, although vs Yak-9K and UT it dies just the same, and it’s vulnerable to 20mm, but Shvak needs some serious clobbering via hull top, so there’s that.
Kugel absolutely deserves to sit higher than Zerst, but both are waaay inferior to SUB I-II, ZSD and Praga as SPAAs, they are also worse than BTR-ZD, that Frech double 20mm monstrosity, probably also R3 is better at plane killing (as 20mm hits almost as hard, but has better ballistics, lol) but due to APCR being broken, these 20mm SPAAs are not going anywhere.
Doesnt seem so to me :3
No, its basically only valid tactic to deal with Wirbelwind, Zestorer or Kugelblutz, YOu aint coming close to them until the reload, and their reload? You`ll notice it immedeately. Yes, from time to time you fail to read the room and get shot, but whatever if it happends 1 in 50 times.
Rarely happends with mag-fed machines if you ask me
Surely can
I‘m talking about dropping thin Minebombs with fuze delay, hitting the ground.
I‘m talking about players dropping bombs from 100-200m above a target from level flight and the bomb magically stopping once it hits the ground, losing all its momentum.
Bombs weren’t used to target tanks. They are simply too inaccurate and the only way to even score a hit would be from a dive, into a tank formation or column.
Stuka dive bombing accuracy was dropping a bomb inside a 100x100m area. And that was during training.
But even if you only dive bomb in WT, your accuracy is going to be a lot higher because there’s no wind or air that could influence the fall of the bomb.
There’s a reason why planes started to use cluster ammunition for targeting vehicles.
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Zesty can do it’s job, but that’s only in a short while when enemy is still not fed up with you. Though it’s being a massive target can be used to your advantage it’s still kind of sad.
LOL, with Hispanos or .50 cals I can strafe them from outside their range.
Wirbel is only deadly if you get within 800m.
All 3 can get 1000+m sniped easily by Yak-9K and they can’t do anything about it, as their ballistics are kinda crap.
Ostwind II has a better chance, but even Ostwind II is on BTR-ZD level regarding range at best.
I even posted ballistics of SPAAs we’re talking about and there’s a HUGE gap between German 30mm and all other SPAAs this topic is about.
“outside” the range of 1.2km your cannon shots arent that effective)
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They are
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20mms and even .50 cals are effective enough vs Zerst, vs Ostwind/Wirbel it’s a bit of a lottery, though.
Byt with Yak-9K I have quite a few 1200m snipes, and I’m not even good at it.
No doubt
No, its basicaly non-efficient in 90% cases
Last time i barraged them germans with Yak-9K i did little to no damage.YaK is great to deal with armored techs
You have this weird tendency to only rate the gameplay by your perception, rather than being objective.
What are „them Germans“?
No German AA stands a chance against 45mm APHE, as they have at best 20-30mm or armor on the sides and top.
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I should do the same with my stats in both Yaks-9 done only in GRB
How else can i rate it if not by the experience i have with it?
Its like saying “judge the event by how the TV makes it look, not by how you yourself see it after trying it yourself”
Wirbelwind, Ostwind, Kugelblitz, Flak 341, Zestorer
You do realize that damage isnt about the penetration only?
Them Zesstorers just dont get damaged with 45, being overpens? idk but hits that dont hit the cannons of said spaa dont exactly vaporize the crew. Same with the Wirbelwind, tho the Ostwind 2 doesnt have said problem. And Kugelblitz is just broken as doesnt receive damage while the Flakpanzer can whistand that cannon.
I find the HE belt more appealing if im to hunt SPAAs. I use HE belt for said funny experience on Yak-9T
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Maybe aim better?
Aim for cannon breeches? Okay cap, ill do that from 800-1000m distance with a plane sights, thanks.
OR i just would use thunderbolt and slap it with splash damage…
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Maybe the hull like a normal person?
okay lol
Again, aim better.
If You have any doubts You can check my stats in Yak-9s